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Has anyone modded a enzo yet?

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  1. Cozmic_Kid

    Cozmic_Kid F1 Veteran

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    Naaah not really. 20 seconds is not much.

    The figures I have say...

    0-100: 2.5s
    0-200: 7.3s
    0-300: 16.7s

    And the testdrivers say acceleration almost stops around 380km/h and it takes another 55 seconds to get up to 407km/h from there.

    But yes, they also said it is stable and even around 375km/h:)
     
  2. dretceterini

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    Yes, it has a top speed somewhat higher than an Enzo. I don't know what the FXX's top speed is....but it will not handle as well...
     
  3. murcie.mania

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    It does zero to top in 55 seconds, and the figures above are correct; VERY quick to 300km/h, but then a bit longer to top. I think the comparison is that a Veyron gets to 200mph faster than a Macca F1 gets from 100 to 200mph. Which is impressive, needless to say. If slightly irrelevant.

    I think a few McLarens have crashed from 200mph because at around that speed the steering goes a bit "light" (and the driver gets a bit "nervous") then the aerodynamics settle down towards 210, 220 mph again. There's a fellow on Pistonheads.com (Username Flemke, if I remember correctly) who modified the suspension and steering on his F1 in an effort to improve the feel of the steering, but also to improve this loss of stability at high speeds. I don't know how this turned out. Of course, add the LM bodykit, and it's a totally different story... Top speed around ~225mph, but it's hella stable, and produces enough downforce to win LeMans. Effective.

    Reports indicate the Veyron simply inspires confidence at any speed. And it had better, having gone over-time and over-budget more than anything I can remember.
     
  4. SefacHotRodder

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    Not that i know of
     
  5. WILLIAM H

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    Who cares the Big Mac is a LeMans winner, the VeySchlong never will be
     
  6. SefacHotRodder

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    #31 SefacHotRodder, Feb 18, 2006
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    True. It was only a few months ago that Veyrons (being tested) were automatically shutting down (engines) after 1 lap of the 'ring because of overheating. I wonder how long it would last at the Sarthe?
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  7. ClassicFerrari

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    Apparently there are 2 Giallo Enzo's with blacked out wheels. A couple of chatter's can verify this....Salegosse?
     
  8. SefacHotRodder

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    1 of them no longer has black wheels and is no longer in monaco
     
  9. AEHaas

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    More power always results form using a thinner oil. I am currently using 5W-40 in my Enzo and I am thinking of going to 0W-30 next.

    aehaas
     
  10. crazy-enzo

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    youre enzo?? do you have an enzo??
     
  11. SefacHotRodder

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  12. gbrown37

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    133512 used to be in monaco with black rims and plates VO90, and is now in Australia woth plates 01A0773 and no more black rims.

    as for the monaco one that still has black rims, it also has a stereo/GPS system
     
  13. ClassicFerrari

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  14. crazy-enzo

    crazy-enzo Formula 3

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    WOW, i'm speechless
     
  15. enzof355f430

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    you lucky bastage!
     
  16. eurospec

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    hey Ali,how does your Enzo compare to your other cars?
     
  17. istanl

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    Wrong shape??! It creates 775kg of downforce at 180mph, if you want to do that there is a cost, and that is drag. On the plus side it's not going to take off.
    You know the McLaren can't actually reach 240mph without changing the rev limiter. Otherwise it tops out at 225mph.
     
  18. SefacHotRodder

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    So what you can't top out at 240 in a McLaren. You need a special key in the Veyron and you can't turn the wheel more than 45 degrees or use the brakes at all or it'll come out of top speed mode.

    Gordon Murray said that thing about the Enzo in an interview a while back, i'll try to find it.
     
  19. dretceterini

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    I wouldn't go to 0-30.....I use 10-40 in myAlfas
     
  20. AEHaas

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    The Enzo is unique. It feels light and powerful as expected. The steering is easy yet informative and very precise. I enjoy the fact that there are no rattles or vibrations in the car. There is an a/c and the windows roll down. Visibility is good. The feedback from the instrument panel is excellent. Feedback from the tires and suspension is probably as good as it gets.

    Yesterday I adjusted the pedals for more leg room. I went to the maximum setting for the most room and there is more leg room than my Maranello 575 I think. It was an easy adjustment.

    My wife complains about the road/tire noise. There are no big rubber mountings or sub-assemblies. It is all a very solid connection as one would expect in a race car. There is no insulation. Yet the car is more quiet than expected. If the road surface is smooth the car is quiet, if the road is very rough then it is noisy. I asked my wife if she would trade her Murcielago for the Enzo and she flatly said NO.

    aehaas
     
  21. AEHaas

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    Current Dilemma:

    Ferrari Enzo. The manual recommends Shell Helix Ultra 10W-60. I have not seen the actual viscosity data but I will guess it to be thus - 40 C - 120 cSt, 100 C - 22 cSt, HTHS - 5.0. I have no real data, just a guess for argument sake.

    I am currently using Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 with the following known parameters: - 40 C - 76 cSt, 100 C - 13.8 cSt, HTHS - unknown. As stated previously the oil got up to 180 F at 80 MPH (under higher than usual RPM just to help heat it up some more). Then at a steady 80 MPH in 6th gear, approx. 2,400 RPM the oil was at 180 F and the pressure was at 70 PSI. The manual states that one should have between 75 and 90 PSI at 6,000 RPM so I am well over this pressure range for my application.

    I have driven over the weekend for up to 25 minutes under no particular load around town and the oil temperature did not get above 160 F. Personally I am concerned about low temperature operation, not racing temperatures.

    I have looked at 40 C and 100 C specifications and to a lesser extent the HTHS numbers:

    Red Line 5W-30 - 65, 10.6, 3.8
    Red Line 5W-40 - 94, 15.1, 4.6

    Mobil One 0W-40 - 80, 14.3, 3.6

    Pennzoil Syn Euro 5W-40 - 91, 14.5, 3.9

    Castrol Syntec (SL) 5W-50 - 110, 17.5, 4.5

    Valvoline SynPower 5W-40 - 82, 13.9, unknown HTHS

    Agip Synthetic PC 5W-40 - 81, 13.5, unknown HTHS

    others...

    Remember the Shell is a 5W-40 - 76, 13.8, unknown HTHS

    I believe it is a hydrocracked synthetic not like a PAO or ester. Since I obviously produce no heat while driving it would be nice to have a really low pour point and 40 C viscosity. Clearly the 100 C viscosity is enough and I could go lower than with this Shell oil. It may be nice to have a HTHS of 4.0 but certainly no more in my book, it is just the least important number right now.

    As it turns out the shell numbers look good except the flash point of 206 C. This is the least I have ever seen for a 30 or 40 wt. oil and typically this oil has high evaporative loses (oil consumption) in Ferrari engines whereas other oils have less loss with higher miles.

    If I could pick the numbers I would go with a pour point of -45 C, a 40 C viscosity of 60 cSt and a 100 C viscosity of 13 cSt. As long as the HTHS was at least 3.5 it would be OK for me. I am not picking this because it is a magic number. I am accepting a much lower number than specified in the manual I am sure.

    So what oil out there is thin for start up and trips around town of less than 30 minutes and adequate for the highway at 80 MPH?

    aehaas
     
  22. drunkenmaster16x1

    drunkenmaster16x1 Formula Junior

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    AEHaas,

    Great insight. Nice to hear about the car from an actual owner.

    By the way, what kinds of driving modes does the enzo have? (traction settings, diff., shifting modes, etc.)
     
  23. AEHaas

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    #48 AEHaas, Feb 19, 2006
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  24. crazy-enzo

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    OMG sweet pics :D
     
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