Has Ferrari really "clinched" the 2007 WCC ?

I think it's tacitly implied that that could happen. I mean, technically even a team that has finished the season and won the WCC they could still have it revoked three years down the line due to some infraction, etc. Can they not call themselves the champions?

 

Stop wasting space.

 

Yes, so please go away.

 

+1
We can vote if you like?

 

Yes, Ferrari clinched the WCC and neither one of McLaren's drivers should be the WDC. Why? Your beloved McLaren and it arrogant POS drivers CHEATED. From Coughlin on, they could have returned the Ferrari dossier on day one, turned in Stephney, embarrassed Ferrari. Yet they chose to use the information in the dossier and that friend is called cheating, even in Georgia.

Hypothetical infractions don't cut it. At this point in time, knowing how the hammer fell on McLaren, I would seriously suggest that all the cars on the grid are rather "clean".

Just like I can't understand why people continue to smoke knowing the health detriment of the habit, I can not understand knowing what we all know why anyone would have anything positive to say about McLaren, Alonso, and Hamilton. The team got caught cheating, their self appointed #1 driver admitted to using the information, in other words, Alonso cheated. Even worse, I wonder how more about McLaren's actitivites we don't know that would further bury their slime reputation.

 

as far as i'm concerned, both the WDC and WCC titles are tainted.

 

The only thing tainted is McLaren. If McLaren had not been on the track, Ferrari would be unquestionably the victor. Let Ferrari have all the McLaren racing strategy, all technical and engineering details of the car, plus all future technical and engineering ideas through 2008 and let them keep it for three months and do track and dyno testing. Then the two teams should each have a fair chance.

 

McLaren's violation of the rules was worse than Ferrari's violations at Fuji, but Ferrari should get penalized for starting on inters against the Steward of the Race's orders and for blantantly having Mazza pit aginst the rules saying no team orders allowed. I think what would be fair and reasonable is for Ferrari to loose the team points it gained at Fuji.

I think the penalty against McLaren is a bit unfair too, as they were GIVEN the stuff; they did not actually steal it.

 

...what waste of diskspace...and time

 

If I ever decide to break the law I definitely want you as my attorney...

 

LOL, it was the bank's fault I stole their money, they should have secured it better!!

 

Yes.

But who cares? WCC is a consolation prize at best. They are difficult to exploit from a marketing perspective (just look at Renault in the eighties) and I bet Ferrari won't make much of a big fuss over this one in particular. Marketingwise it is probably better to hold on to the gold medals from 2000-2004 than to a bronze medal from 2007.

 

I am sorry, but I seriously don't get the 2000-2004 part. Ferrari were constructor champions from 1999 to 2005 and also WDC from2000 to 2005. Besides this year in the wrst case scenario they would have silver.
Did I miss something that happened during last half dozen years?

 

YES. THEY HAVE CLINCHED IT.*

*Barring some behavior which cannot be seen or predicted at this time.

2007 will be known as the asterisk season.

 

For Barry Bonds or Ferrari?

 

And McLiaran too. Especially McLiaran.

 

I agree 100%. Can't wait for the 2008 season.

 

+1000

 

WDC was 2000 to 2004. Freudian slip?

What I'm saying is that to me (and many others) the WDC is so much more important and valuable than the WCC.

I don't know all the WCCs by heart (but a good number) going back to 1950, but I couldn't tell you any WCC. It's not something I ever focus on. Anecdotal at best.

 

Yes...yet again.

Ferrari was not WDC in 2005.

Keep up your "research", we need the comic relief.

 

The FIA should ban all teams other than Ferrari.

 

Sorry I meant WDC '00-'05 and Wcc '99-'04