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Have you seen this new processing called "HDR" !?!

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  1. ryalex

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    Yes, we did. Lots of it. Stop already.
     
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    Pretty much.
     
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    There is a photography service out here (or maybe multiple ones) that have been shooting entire homes in HDR.. I can understand a nice backyard shot, but the bathrooms too?
     
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    Actually makes more sense indoors to me, especially if you've done a lot of detail work (tile, cabinets, etc.) that would be in shadows.
     
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    #6 CMY, Sep 29, 2010
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    Personally I'd rather see a well-lit, untouched photo of an interior than something which makes it look completely unnatural. As an artistic exercise, great.. but at the end of the day reality is what will compel a person to sign on the bottom line, not the ability to take great HDR's inside of it.
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    All of those photos are overdone in my opinion.
     
  9. CMY

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    I agree.
     
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    #10 ryalex, Sep 29, 2010
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    Porsche is also a violator - lately their press pics are hyper-processed and have HDR elements. To me HDR is like hitting the 'Posterize' button on a 1992 VHS video camera.

    I suppose it's a trend with a new technology, and will blend back in with time. Now it's also "OMG, TILT SHIFT!!" lens work
     
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    #11 Wade, Sep 29, 2010
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    As an artsy expression, I like HDR. For real estate listings, I prefer it to "virtual tour" experience, most of which is nothing more than pan & zoom on static images.
     
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    #12 blackwood, Sep 29, 2010
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    The second is heavily tonemapped, though.

    Well-lit is great, but using stacked exposures (i.e. "HDR") to close the gap between camera dynamic range (at most about 13 stops, and then only with extremely expensive gear) relative to human eye dynamic range (on the order of 30 stops) is completely reasonable IMO.

    Take something like this (attached). This was a single exposure, but in real life I could see the rafters, I could see the crowd, etc.. I could see a hell of a lot more than the camera was capable of recording. A HDR image could provide a much more realistic record of what that venue actually looked like.
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    Please tell me...What is the difference of This procedure and Taking a set of 3 or 5 bracketed shots and overlaying them..In my camera I have the option of taking RAW shots and combining them into one....Where is the almost 3D effect of HDR pictures arrived at..is it in the software???
     
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    I don't understand your question.

    What's the "This procedure" you're referring to?


    To truly increase the dynamic range, you must stack multiple exposures. However, that alone won't produce the look I think you want. That look comes from tonemapping, and yes, it's done in software (unless someone came out with a fancy camera function).
     
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    "As with all new tools, be careful not to overdo their use. Use care when violating the image's original tonal hierarchy; do not expect deep shadows to become nearly as light as a bright sky. In our doorway example, the sunlit building and sky are the brightest objects, and they stayed that way in our final image. Overdoing editing during HDR conversion easily can cause the image to lose its sense of realism. Furthermore, HDR should only be used when necessary; best results can always be achieved by having good lighting to begin with."
     
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    Perfect summation of HDR use. If you can recognize HDR was used its probably to strong. Unless of course your purposely going for a surreal unrealistic look.
     
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    Exactly! Hey I've merged multiple images for different exposures, etc. but that's to make it look like genuine.

    My beef is that oversaturated and overdone HDR is going to be the Comic Sans of photography...
     
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    Without a Doubt....This is the logical stepping stone to Holographic Photography...

    Its Coming Brotha!!!
     
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    All of those ROOMS are overdone in my opinion.

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    Sorry, but I don't understand what you are asking for. Perhaps you'd like to stop by my place to discuss? I live in the red building in the middle, second floor.
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