having fun with friend's speciale

Nice! The other car is a Speciale, correct? Hard to tell for sure...

 

Your Italia keeps up with the Speciale very well! I would have thought that a Speciale would be running away from you, but it's not!!

 

Who's driving what makes a big difference.

 

That's an awesome track with long straights for maxi speed. The S is not that much faster than the Italia...the evidence keeps building.

 

Great video. Just curious what camera and mount you used to film it.

 

I have just come back from the Pilota Avanzato course on Varano near Parma. I timed my video runs (on iMovie) and found the runs where I had telemetry data provided by the instructors were identical to the length in iMovie. Therefore, I can assume the other runs to be accurate too.

The Speciale in sport mode is no faster around a track than the 458 in race mode. We did not use the Speciale in race but I reckon that would have been something like a second quicker. There was around 10s difference between all the drivers though!!

The track is very tight and technical, a good 'amateur' lap is in the 1:20 to 1:22 range in a 458. The F12 was much slower there, I was about 2s off my own pace in a 458.

 

I think the "Pro" in the Speciale is not as good as the top ones or he is intentionally not pushing very hard. If he was a skilled pro driver in that Speciale you would never see that guy on the track let alone catch him. My instructor (pro-racer and coach in Kessel Racing) was almost 4 sec faster than the best Italia times driven by very good amateurs with race experience on Istanbul Park track. According to him with equal drivers Speciale is almost 2 sec faster than Italias on normal tracks

 

2s better than Italia? That's really bad considering that the Speciale has cup tires

 

2sec gap on a 5-6km long track is a huge difference between similar cars

 

I've done a couple thousand laps around Sebring and would kill for 2 seconds.

 

Great video. Thanks for sharing. I think its not just your brakes and tires but also the more open exhaust + tune. You are likely making about the same power. As you said you also have the lighter exhaust system and also some of the weight difference in the two cars is the seats. Since you are both running the racing seats you have closed the gap.

 

Great video....not sure I would want someone texting or on their phone next to me while driving at speed...that phone could hurt pretty badly if it hit you in an incident of slipped out....

So strange our society, nothing is interesting enough to keep the attention away from a gadget anymore...

 

Only if they are similar. The tires alone would account for those 2 seconds. What then do we think of all the lightening, aero, software, and additional horse power? Do they amount to nothing?

 

I was talking about Stock Speciale vs Stock Italia. 2 sec. was a general claim. It may be more or less depending on the track and on many other factors such as driver weight, air temp, fuel level, tires pressures etc, etc... All things being equal Speciale is always faster than an Italia on track

 

Yes, the question is how much faster? I am curious myself. If it's a case of 2 seconds difference between an Italia and a Speciale, then Ferrari would have failed misearably with the Speciale.

 

You don't seem to realise that 2 seconds is a big gap. Taking an Italia and making it 2 secs quicker is a huge task.

 

As I said 2 sec difference is very subjective. What were you expecting so the Speciale is very successful over Italia, 4-5 sec? Anyone that tracks or races knows that 2 sec difference is a BIG margin. So for many including me it is a big improvement over Italia. After all it has got only 30-40 hp more. Biggest difference comes from gearbox, suspension, lightweight and aero.

 

Are u saying that cup 2 tires dun amt to 2 seconds?

 

Cool video.

Was it my ears or did you hit the rev limit a lot?

 

sticky tires would do it