What kind of headlights have been original installed in a Ferrari Dino E-serie US-model. Did they came from Carello too and if so any difference to the headlights fitted into european models? Regards Matthias
wagners and Westinghouse Westinghouse 6012 or 6014 they're interchangeable. Don't know the wagner's number. You can still get the westinghouse on ebay for under $20, I've picked up a few in the past for under $5. [edit] Upon further examination, I think only the Westinghouse are original, but no longer made, and the Wagner is an acceptable substitute. DM
thank you, have the Westinghouse head lights been fitted at the factory or were they changed by the US-importer? Regards Matthias
There is no marking on my headlamp lens, except "sealed beam," Matthias. The brand is probably inside. Andres
Now that one I can't help you with, but I suspect they left the factory with them. After all, Ferrari would have had to manufacture them to US spec. They were using some of the parts that Fiat was using on US spec cars by that point, right? The front turn signal lenses are Alfa spec. Side markers too. I should think they left the factory floor with the correct headlights. I do have a friend who did a lot of work on these cars when they first were imported, I'll ask him next time I see him. DM
I`m pretty sure they were factory fitted. US head lights had an own part number (0201766). If you can get any confirmation, that would be very much appreaciated.
Hello Matthias, The US sealed beam headlamps were most certainly installed at the factory. Whether they were Westinghouse or another brand should be irrelevant, since 6012 or 6014 are industry type numbers and not specific manufacturer's numbers. They were also manufactured by Sylvania, GE and many others. Any brand of sealed beam headlamps of type 6012 or 6014 should be considered correct and original equipment for a US Dino.They were used on many other US cars, and - unlike the Carellos - are widely available at very reasonable prices. There are even NOS GE 6014 available on eBay for $8.05. One of the few areas where there is actually an advantage to own a US Dino. The photo below is showing a typical US sealed beam headlamp on my car. They are a bit flatter than the Carellos, and can be readily identified by the three "nipples" on the glass. The nipples were required on all sealed beams, I believe, and intended for use with standardized headlamp aiming devices. Lars Image Unavailable, Please Login
Lars, thank you very much. They look exactly like the one listed in the Ferrari Dino spare parts catalogue. Regards Matthias
Don't mean to be argumentative, but Westinghouse was the USA spec lamp. I've had this exact discussion with several Dino guys, including a couple FCA national and Pebble Beach concours judges, and they all agree. I'm not saying that you need Westinghouse now, especially since they are all NOS only, but, it's the correct lamp, and one that I put on my Dino to replace some aftermarket lamps when I did the restoration. The Westinghouse lamps are also regularly available on Ebay, so, why not buy what's correct when you can? D
i have owned my 73 gts since 1980 , the marchals as pictured were on the car when i bought it and i assume they are original. dan Image Unavailable, Please Login
Legally a manufacturer could only homologate and import a new vehicle with sealed beam headlamps for the USA during this time. Many owners and dealers in the USA upgraded to bulb type halogen lamp as it was a simple switch. Freeman
My point was only that there is no way how you could get points taken off at an FCA concours for having another brand of sealed beam headlamps on the car - particularly not if they are of the same type number and appearance as the factory originals. The FCA judging guidelines state that: "Routine replacement items, such as spark plugs, filters, battery, window glass, and tires, need not be the exact original brand or type provided that replacements conform to the general appearance, characteristics, and size of the original." Headlamps are not specifically mentioned, but I understand that they are considered to be routine replacement items. That is even more true for sealed beam type. After all, they are nothing more than a lightbulb with a built-in reflector. That being said, I am all in favour of going beyond the FCA guidelines in trying to make the cars as close to the way they left the factory as possible. So, if it is correct that Ferrari used mainly Westinghouse lamps, I may well take your advice and get some of them while they are still available - just for my own satisfaction. We are all nuts here, so why not... Lars
