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Discussion in 'New England' started by caz-nsx, Nov 13, 2006.

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  1. caz-nsx

    caz-nsx Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    Hello everyone. I have been on fchat for awhile trying to learn all I can about 355s and 360s. I may be taking the plunge and I wanted to start to make some contacts for service and owners to help me out with questions as they come up.

    I currently own an NSX. I love the car but I feel that I'm getting a little bored and want to move to something else.

    I have found some nice 355s on line, but the maintenance worries me. Where do most of you go for service? I'm located in the seacoast area of NH, so I'm assuming someplace in MA will be doing my service. Do any of you do your own service?

    Thanks in advance for any responses.
     
  2. rsvmille676

    rsvmille676 Formula Junior

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    As a member of the "Ferrari Fix It Club" Let me say welcome. There is a group of us on the board that work on cars. To date we have done MANY 308's services as well as work on 348's and a 355. I think we are set to do a TR this winter.

    We will all be happy to help you work on / fix your 355 when you need.

    Cheers!

    Scott
     
  3. dan360

    dan360 F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2003
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    Welcome! There are a number of threads here about local service in MA and NE in general. If you look up the top right of the page when your on the NE region thread list you'll see a "search this forum" button.

    However a good start is:

    http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93433&highlight=IFS

    Essentially the 3 most obvious (in no particular order) are Independent Ferrari Service, Boston Sports Car, Ferrari of New England in MA. There are more in CT, and some up in VT also. Most everyone from ME or NH brings cars down to MA.
     
  4. Pizzaman Chris

    Pizzaman Chris F1 Rookie

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    I had the privilege of meeting Mr. "caz-nsx" and Mrs caz-nsx , they will be a nice addition to our New England F-chat club.

    Good luck with your search my friend. :)

    Chris
     
  5. caz-nsx

    caz-nsx Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    Thanks for the replies. I'm torn between the 355 and the 360. The extra $30k for the 360 seems to hedge your bets on repair costs. From the research I have gathered by the time you have owned both cars for two belt services the total payout would be about the same. This is assuming something major comes up on the 355 through those years.

    I'm not worried about the major service every three years. I bet I have spent an average of $2k per year doing service on the NSX. That I would expect to be about the same for a 355 or 360. It looks like the 355 has some major issues that may come up and blow that yearly average through the roof. Any insight you could provide would be great.

    Chris, did you order your lift yet? I'm looking forward to getting to know you guys through this site and hopefully at some events next year.
     
  6. DadsFerrari

    DadsFerrari Formula 3

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    The 355 wins on old school looks, a la 348, and 3x8 series with popup lights. The 360 is said to be more reliable (ha) than the 355, but majors are costly still. Much more performance, futuristic look and value in the 360.

    Unless you find some rare 355 that is a late Fiorano or F1/GTS, buying a red 355 is not something I would do. A local F Chatter traded a red 360 F1 for a Ford GT, and I think it was a huge step upwards. Base model Ferraris are everywhere, I would just supercharge your NSX to add some excitement to it!!
     
  7. Pizzaman Chris

    Pizzaman Chris F1 Rookie

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    Yes, i just placed the order. He said 10-14 days. Can't wait.:)
     
  8. enjoythemusic

    enjoythemusic F1 World Champ

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    Agreed, avoid the 355. As for the Ford GT, i know where a new one in red is at a dealer. Who knows, with sales being so low you could probably get it at X% off sticker.
     
  9. gman ferrari

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    what about a f430 maybe or 348
     
  10. DadsFerrari

    DadsFerrari Formula 3

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    I admit that a Ford GT is not as practical or comfortable as a 355/360, but it wins on being a statement. I also know that a 360 is priced well below a Ford GT. But I still prefer it over a 430, even though the 430 can supposedly outperform an F40 (and maybe an F50?)
     
  11. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3
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    OBDII cars, Ferraris built after 1996, are a little trickier to work on unless you have an SDII computer. (Systema Diagnosti series 2). The average asking price for one of these if you can find it is abou $12K.
    Most manufacturers are attempting to eliminate independent repair shops and do it yourselfers by limiting tools and repair information available to the public. Please keep this in mind when making a decision.
     
  12. caz-nsx

    caz-nsx Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    Again, thank you all for replies. I think I will stay away from the 355. I'll start checking out the market for 360s. Now that I'm looking at 360s that gets me close to Gallardo range. That will be a tough choice to make.
     
  13. Birdman

    Birdman F1 Veteran

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    Geez you guys, the guy asks for opinions between a 355 and a 360 and he gets everything from "keep the NSX" to "buy a Ford." Come on you guys, how about a team spirit for Fcars? Base model Ferraris are not "everywhere." Please. BMW 3 series cars are everywhere. You could go a year on public roads in MA and not see a half dozen Ferraris. I have seen just as many Ford GTs on the roads as Ferraris. In fact, I have seen more GTs than F430s.

    A 355 with a reasonable amount of miles and good service history should be fine because it will have had the two major issues addressed (valve guides, headers). These are the trouble areas on a 355. If they have been properly addressed, the 355 is a great car with lots of power and killer looks. Don't buy a garage queen. Buy one that was driven.

    The 360 has a bit more power and a more modern look, but looks are subjective. Many prefer the signature Ferrari grille on the 355 to the very non-traditional dual grilles of the 360. (I like them both). The 360 is known to be a very trouble-free car, like the 328. I believe the belts can be done with the engine in the car.

    Birdman
     
  14. enjoythemusic

    enjoythemusic F1 World Champ

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    You are right, just that a 355 had better have those updates. Was amazed my local(ish) Ford dealer has a red GT40 in stock and he seems to be willing to make a deal on it. Between a 355 and 360 i feel the 360 may be a better long-term for reliability. The 360 will probably bottom out years from now and he'll lose more $$$ than a 355, which still has a bit of room to bottom but perhaps not as much.

    Of course only a fool buys a normal production Ferrari that has been superceded thinking of it as an investment. OUCH that sounded harsh :( My apologies my friend and NOT directed towards you or anyone here.
     
  15. Birdman

    Birdman F1 Veteran

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    I agree. They are both on their way down, with a long way to go, but the 355 (being older) is further down the depreciation slope and you will not lose as much on it as you will on a 360. But then again, you are going to lose money on 99% of the cars out there, so you might as well just buy the one that you like and that you can afford.

    I think 95% of the decision on an Fcar is based on looks. We buy the one that we like the looks of, and not much else. There can be no other explanation for people like me that have 308s, because we sure didn't buy them for the horsepower!

    Birdman
     
  16. enjoythemusic

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    #16 enjoythemusic, Nov 15, 2006
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    So very true... and this includes the car i am about to procure this weekend. Looks sexy as heck but only has 150HP/135TQ. Then again the car with me in it only weights 1175 lbs. (think power-to-weight ratio :) ).
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  17. dan360

    dan360 F1 Rookie

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    Good on ya guys, lets see some fcar Ra-Ra.

    Its easy to rationalize the purchase of a Ford GT, but its not a Ferrari. It does sound special, the interior is funky but pretty cheap, and (sad to admit this last point) it has essentially zero luggage space. And there are 5000 of them essentially all in the US market. With 300 odd CSes in the US, even that isn't an investment, so I look forward to the days of a 100K Ford GT with pleasure. Although the new supercharged Z07 or whatever they're going to call it is probably more of an "all-american" choice for your muscle car.

    Both a 360 or a 355 are practical cars for a good road trip. My brother and I did 10 days in the CS and 3000 miles and it was faultless.

    Either a 355 or a 360 will have masses more character than you NSX.
     
  18. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3
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    You have all made good points about the 355 & 360. I like both cars and agree with you.
    I think we are having two conversations, though. Are they good cars and and they easy for do it yourself guys. I say yes to the first part and no to the second.
    Why did Steve have to go and get all religous on us?

    David
     
  19. enjoythemusic

    enjoythemusic F1 World Champ

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    Had an awakening... Praise the Lord ;)

    DARK HELMET No, no, no, light speed is too slow.

    SANDURZ Light speed, too slow?

    DARK HELMET Yes, we're gonna have to go right to ludicrous
    speed.

    <<ALL gasp>>

    SANDURZ (gasp) Ludicrous speed? Sir, we've never
    gone that fast before. I don't know if this ship can take it.

    DARK HELMET What's the matter, Colonel Sandurz, chicken?
     
  20. Pizzaman Chris

    Pizzaman Chris F1 Rookie

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    Spaceballs.

    Oh wait, "Who is Spaceballs"?


    YEESSS. What did i win??:)
     
  21. Durpen

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    caz-nsx, I don't know if you have driven the cars in question. For me, the driving experience comes first. Resale value, reliability, rarety etc don't matter if I don't like how the car gets down the road.

    Kirk
     
  22. Bertocchi

    Bertocchi Formula 3
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    Can I get an Amen?
     
  23. enjoythemusic

    enjoythemusic F1 World Champ

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    Agreed he should drive the cars in questions before making a descision. Reliability SHOULD matter as will the ability to finance the upkeep, which can vary depending on usage. Makes no sense owning a car you can not afford to fix/upkeep.
     
  24. enjoythemusic

    enjoythemusic F1 World Champ

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    #24 enjoythemusic, Nov 16, 2006
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  25. caz-nsx

    caz-nsx Rookie

    Jan 30, 2006
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    I have not driven a 355 or 360. It is difficult around here to find any and I also don't like being a tire kicker. Before I waste any one's time I want to do all the research and have the funds ready. Then I will go drive some cars and go from there.

    I may go with a 355 if I can find one with the valve guides and headers taken care of already. The extra $2k for the major service would be offset by greater depreciation on a 360.

    Then in a few years I may move to a 360 or Gallardo.
     

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