Hello Hamilton Fans ???

Ahh well I no I have no problem with Webber winning at all great drive and throughly deserved however ..it's just a pity he happens to bring a resurgence to a well known troll..so as a warning to others...
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Tis a fair point.

 

HAHAHAHA dag gone Steve...that's a new one to me. Great picture!

 

That's not what I meant.

Lewis was brought, by McLaren and his father, up through the F1 driver assembly line from karting to F1. He was aimed at F1 from an early age.

But, from the way he drives an F1 car, I often get the feeling that Lewis would be happier side-sliding a Peugeot through gravel than kerb-hopping in F1 (to the point of annoying the stewards for "cutting corners").
Last year, Lewis spent almost as much time airborne in his McLaren as Loeb does in WRC.

If Kimi jumps to WRC, would that give rally enough "status" that Lewis might talk his dad into letting him try it?

 

put the mirror away

 

:Confused: I've been saying exactly that for 2 years and you consider me some sort of LH hater. Just think how much more of a complete package LH would be if he had started in the tail-end drive. He would have learnt car development and probably by now be a serious MS rival ... instead he has learnt very little, ie: I am fast if the car is fast, but otherwise I am lost. Poor kid.

Oh well ... even in this very thread!!: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138801116&postcount=73
Pete

 

Hambone is a cardboard charater created by Madison Avenure advertising. And like any other cardboard charater any bump or wind, easy knocks him down. In the music industy they call them one hit wonders. His next avenue will be NASCAR or a made for TV movie.

 

If by one-hit-wonder you mean like the Rolling Stones, then I agree.

That would mean Schumi is Elvis.

 

No you are wrong again. The Stones are not one-hit-wonders. Hambone is more like Milli Vanilli.. All looks good until the music stops.

 

I think Mike knows that ..
It appears not Jim ... I admit they were crap tho!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milli_Vanilli

 

I'll try again

If Milli Vanilli had multiple hits and were known as great musicians, then you'd be right.

 

The group's debut album achieved high sales internationally which earned them a Grammy Award for Best New Artist in 1990. The act became one of the most popular pop acts in the late 1980s and early 1990s. However, their success turned to infamy when their Grammy was revoked after it was revealed that the actual vocals on the record were not the voices of Morvan and Pilatus. In 1998, ten years after Milli Vanilli's initial debut, Pilatus was found dead in a Frankfurt hotel of an apparent drug overdose.


They were considered as great musicians until the music stopped, Just like hambone, Lets just hope that Hambone does not end up like them, but you never know look at MJ.

 

They weren't ever considered great musicians. They were popular amongst the younger crowd but that popularity evaporated when they were shown to be a sham.

That is obviously drastically different than Hamilton, who is a World Champion winning driver - and he holds a place among names like Schumacher and Fangio and Alonso and Hakkinen. Also, he has won lots of races - not just one or two. He is soundly beating his teammate this year, as he has done every year. He came within a hairs distance of winning the WDC his rookie year, against arguably the best driver on the grid.

Pretty much nothing about him says one hit wonder, especially when you consider he's already had lots and lots of 'hits'. With the rules stability coming, it's likely the natural order of things will be restored, meaning Ferrari and McLaren running towards the front. The cream always rises to the top, and there is no doubt plenty of WDC's ahead for guys like Vettel and Alonso and Hamilton.

But since he's already had many 'hits', he is clearly not a one-hit-wonder.

 

They acheived a Grammy Award before they were found out to be fakes. Hambone won a WDC by one point. He is not a "Great" Champion when all he does now is cry about the car , talk about quitting and that all he wants to do is park it. He would be better off if he kept his mouth shut and worked thru the issues. You may be infatuated with him and if you are I'm happy for you.

 

HOLY **** this is the mother of all metaphors.

 

LOL You gotta laugh Joe...

 

The Rolling Stones were more like 41-hit wonders: (According to Billboard Top 40)

1. Tell Me (You're Coming Back) 2. It's All Over Now 3. Time Is On My Side 4.Heart of Stone 5.The Last Time 6.(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction [not to be confused with the Devo abomination] 7.Get Off My Cloud 8.As Tears Go By 9.19th Nervous Breakdown 10.Paint It, Black 11.Mother's Little Helper 12.Lady Jane 13.Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? 14.Ruby Tuesday 15.Dandelion 16.She's a Rainbow 17.Jumpin' Jack Flash 18.Honky Tonk Women 19.Brown Sugar 20.Wild Horses 21.Tumbling Dice 22.Happy 23.Angie 24.Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) 25.It's Only Rock 'n Roll (But I Like It) 26.Aint Too Proud to Beg 27.Fool to Cry 28.Miss You 29.Beast of Burden 30.Shattered 31.Emotional Rescue 32.She's So Cold 33.Start Me Up 34.Waiting on a Friend 35.Hang Fire 36.Going to a Go-Go 37.Undercover of the Night 38.Harlem Shuffle 39.One Hit (To the Body) 40.Mixed Emotions 41.Rock and a Hard Place.

Sorry, as a fan of the Stones I had to throw that in there...

Just pulling your chain

 

I agree with the assessment that LH missed a GOLDEN opportunity to learn and develop with a multiple WDC in the stable.

The Hamilton/Alonso fiasco reminds me so much of the Senna/Prost war 20 yrs ago that it was spooky (even down to the WDC in a blue helmet and the newbie in a yellow helmet)! You had an established 2 time WDC (Alonso/Prost) in the stable and a new fresh young talent (Hamilton/Senna) came in the door and using the same set-up was faster than the WDC. The WDC didn't appreciate someone high-jacking all his work and beating him with it (shades of Piquet/Mansell) and the resentment came to a head with the WDC feeling a lot of understandable frustration and bitterness and gradually withdrawing their help of their team mate. This resentment resulted in a lot of bitterness and acrimony within the team both times, with the end result of the WDC leaving the team and re-establishing their greatness in new teams (Prost/Ferrari and Alonso/Renault-actually a homecoming for FA).

Senna learned a lot about how to set-up and develop a car from his 2 years with Prost. It remains to be seen how much Hamilton was able to learn from Alonso. So far it does not look like he has...however, the lack of in-season testing means that the car is not able to be developed in-season as it has in years past and is the primary reason the big dogs (Ferrari and McLaren) have not been able to close the gap to other teams that nailed it from the start... Hard to develop a car if you don't have the opportunity to pound the track and test out the new components. Having said that I still can't shake the feeling that Alonso would have been able to make recommendations that would have led them in the right direction...

Hamilton has talent, but he is doing his reputation no favors with many faux pas committed recently. Hopefully this season has woke him up that the majority of your success comes not from yourself, but from the car (Button comes instantly to mind). With all of the drivers so close in ability at the F1 level it only takes a slightly more effective car to completely transform your prospects for success. Look at Prost. In 90 he was challenging for the title and then in 91 he was saddled with a dog of a car and was nowhere.

Prost was unable to turn things around even with his pedigree... this shows off Schumi's brilliance all the more...

just my 2 cents...

 

It's not that I am infatuated with him, it's that I recognize a great talent when I see it. You have slammed him from the beginning, including being banned for making racist comments towards him. That's a fact. So to suggest you are looking at his career in an unbiased and objective manner is laughable. I'm not sure why you hate the guy - well, actually I am, you showed where your dislike of him is rooted in your prior posts and ban.

He beat Alonso in his rookie year. He shows up Kovalainen pretty much every race. He has hoisted the dog of a McLaren far higher up in the points than it would have been with a lesser driver. By your definition, Kimi is also a one-hit wonder, and Alonso is a two-hit wonder - neither of them have been able to do much with a crappy car. But one thing has always remained consistent, a good driver in a bad car will do a lot better than a mediocre driver in a bad car. That's why Hamilton has done so well compared to Heiki and why MS did so well compared to Rubens when the Ferrari was crap.

Hamilton will almost certainly win multiple additional WDC's. Vettel will probably do the same, as will perhaps Alonso. Only an idiot would look at Hamilton's accomplishments (or Alonso's or Kimi's) and say they were "one hit wonders".

 

How many wins does Hamilton have again?

If anyone is up for a long-term wager on whether Hamilton will have more career wins than The Stones have career hits, I'm in for whatever $$$ amount

(just teasing, I know you know where I'm coming from)

 

It's all good. I knew you were being sarcastic

We're both in on the same joke and are in total agreement that Hamilton, like the Stones, is FAR from a one-hit wonder. Hamilton's performance vs. a 2xWDC (Alonso) and decimation of Kov. have established his talent beyond a doubt. Talent is talent and you have to respect his ability and achievements.

I just question his judgment concerning certain events that have happened during his career (especially last year and this year). Hopefully he is able to learn from his mistakes and move forward. However, with his position in the limelight as a top driver for a top team, he has to realize he is living in a fishbowl and has to conduct himself accordingly...

 

+1 only to add it makes no odds to some whatever he has achieved, does or say's ect, it will be always construed as BS.

Thats the level of hate some have, and is quite pathetic.

 

sad but true...

 

Who cares. Some people could watch the races of 2007 and 2008 100 times and still not get it.

He is a world champion and he'll get more titles. That's all I care about.

 

Yes totally agree.