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And are you seeing yourself having difficulty following these rules? Have you been getting your hand slapped by the moderators?

Unfortunately, this is the Internet... and kindergarteners can be posting here. Hormone-pulsing idiots who are tired of the rules at home and school can come here and violate all those rules. A$$holes tired of being politically correct to avoid getting fired or thrown in jail can come here and cut loose on people.

We Ferraristi can sit back and allow our beloved community be overrun by Kindergarteners and the rest... or we can establish a few rules and turn them away.

Do you come here to rap with Ferraristi? Or to play with those Kindergarteners that you left behind 34 years ago in a playground without all those horrid rules you had to endure back then?? Personally, I have better things to do with my time than re-live playground conversations from my grade school days.

 

agreed. we need rules as guidelines , to establish the boundaries for when action will be taken. ( cause / effect) i still feel its a privilage to be allowed here as a non owner . "wanna be" that i am, i still really enjoy ( most ) of what goes on here and all the new friends i have made, and things i have learned. great post Wayne!

 

Account Termination
Ferrarichat.com can ban users without warning, explanation, or appeal, at the sole discretion of the website's operator.

Some ways of getting banned are, in a nutshell, to be offensive to the sense and sensibilities of the Ferrarichat Community at large: to post bigoted, misogynist, -phobic material; to abuse the site for commercial purposes; to troll with abusive comments regarding Ferrari and/or it's caretakers, fans or owners; to personally attack, defame, libel or malign.

 

God, how *bored* I get with others using the words bigot in the same context as words such as "anti homosexual"

Guess what? I *am* strongly anti- homosexual, and I raise my children that way, as well. I'm a bigot?? Well, once again, *Shove it*

Personally all this political correctness is making me sick. -not that I'm not already.

At first, I almost rushed to become a rossa member, I strongly supported membership dues, but now I figure I'll wait a while and see what is to come....

I think this thread has been discussed enough - Moderator, please archive it or I'll have to use that "report" button.

Rob - time for your input. Not that my joining or leaving means anything to you or anyone else here, but I'm waiting until any and all policies are set before I decide on joining.

 

Excellent point, Wayne. I don't think the content is too bad... but the presentation is waayyy wordy. Its very clear that way... but I think we need to make it as short as possible to make it more likely that people will even bother to read it. So, here's a cut at it, building on Wax's excellent reduction:


Account Termination
Ferrarichat.com can ban users without warning, explanation, or appeal, at the sole discretion of the website's operator.

Some ways of getting banned are, in a nutshell, to be offensive to the sense and sensibilities of the Ferrarichat Community at large: to post bigoted, misogynist, -phobic material; to abuse the site for commercial purposes; to troll with irritating or agitating comments regarding Ferrari and/or it's caretakers, fans or owners; to personally attack, defame, libel or malign.

Posting Etiquette

1. Search before posting. Many questions have been asked and answered dozens of times.
2. Stay on topic in a forum and a thread. If you want to start a new topic, start a new thread with a descriptive title, and place it in the most appropriate forum.
3. Try to be helpful and courteous, particularly to newcomers.
4. Filling in your profile information is a great way to help others help you and get to know you.

Adult Content
Please keep in mind that this is not an adults-only site; many Ferraristi like to read F-chat at their workplace, at school, or in front of their kids. There are plenty of other sites on the Internet to get that content; we're here for Ferrari content.

 

Uhh... he didn't say "anti homosexual"... or "sexual orientation". In fact, wax carefully avoided that issue (which you are raising) by simply saying -phobic. The point is not that we want to condone homosexuality here... rather that we want to avoid *-bashing of any type here. Not for political-correctness... but rather because its simply way-off-topic... and worse it incites reams of argumentative posts. I don't want to see any discussion of sexual orientation on Fchat, positive or negative. This is a Ferrari site!

 

I don't think we need a set of specified rules. Just remove people who are causing an undue amount of trouble. It's been done before. If I don't want to read something, I don't read it.

As for children reading the material, they probably hear far worse everyday in school. I resent others who want to keep a cocoon around their children at the expense of others. I use this list for technical information and entertainment. My advice is to leave well enough alone.

 

You're missing the point! You and I and numerous others may enjoy it if we all put animations of naked girls in our avatars... but many Ferraristi would no longer be able to read Fchat at all... if you primarily read at work, such content can potentially get you fired!

We want as many Ferraristi as possible here... why cut out a bunch of them when there are a zillion good adult-content sites out there already??

 

Damn straight (no pun intended), I pointedly used -phobic, as I noted elsewhere that "homophobic" was used yet, like gabriel (whom Brian responded to above) agree that for many, it's a mixed blessing/crowd/signal when used in the same sentence as "bigot." With that in mind, I think *whatever* one puts in front of -phobic simply implies one shouldn't bash/persecute *whatever* just to create argument for the sake of argument.

For example, If a thread about homosexual priests molesting kids comes up, F-Chatters should be able to state what is on their minds. That's not -phobic, that's common sense and fair. One should speak their mind. But to go around spouting "Faaaaag" at the drop of a hat (or not) is satisfying one's own personal agenda and is incisively argumentative without common courtesy or sense, let alone schoolyard-bully immature.

<breaks rules>This is a worldwide community & that said, only France is the token easy mark. After all, the origin of surrender is French. Heeheehee</breaks rules>

 

Actually, no I am not and as far as I know, the only complaint logged on me was by Mako. 'Nuff said!

I come here for the camaraderie, the information and to have a little fun (maybe fuss around or tell a joke or two). I agree that having a set of guidelines is essential and intend to follow them (as I have already, out of etiquette and common sense).

I simply made a statement in hoping that the moderation does not become too oppressive.

As for the new found masses, we'll see.

DL

 

Gabriel:
I don't know you, but I have recently returned from a self-imposed exodus, after Lambomoron ridiculed the Holocaust, compared censorship and I don't remember what to Naziism, and mocked my loss of a family member to the Holocaust. Never apologized, called me an idiot, and he is still here. I like it here, I came back to ask a question, and see friends I have made and maintained off-board.

Raise your children however you wish, but perhaps tolerance is a lesson many need to learn. Not tolerance of everything, just keeping to oneself, sharing outrage when a 12yo is strapped with bombs, when bodies of strangers are defiled after someone blows them up.

Political correctness is one thing, but tolerating anencephalic sloths like Allen and Mako is unacceptable to me and many others, although I was one of the few who complained. It was appalling to me that people can be indifferent to behavior like this. Or raise their children like this(you brought it up). I have 3, and my newborn and wife have both been in ICU's lately, so this board pales in insignificance. They're cars. I'd give 'em all up to have a healthy family.

So if you wish to suggest I 'shove it', someday you or your child (or their friend...see Allans comment about his daughters friend in whipped cream thread) will be in a spot, and you'll understand.

This board is a good place, but a few trolls kill it. This is not about free speech, it is Rob's board. This is about being an ******* in someone's living room, and we all can get thrown out for it.

Grow up before your children do.
FWIW
Lee

 

Then you should be happy... we don't intend to change the moderation... we're just following the excellent example Rob has given us. The only difference is that the board is growing like mad, and *more* people and *more* posts naturally means *more* moderation is required just to maintain status quo. And with multiple moderators now, some things need to be made explicit...

 

Oh, yeah, I forgot to ask about that part...

What does "NWS" stand for?? (Sorry if I'm not up with the lingo.)
I started to suggest "XXX"... but that might imply much worse than should ever be going up here.
I would suggest something that would be obvious to newcomers.

BEWARE:
RISKY:
HOT:
ADULT:

 

NWS: NOT WORK SAFE

 

This board is a good place, but a few trolls kill it. This is not about free speech, it is Rob's board. This is about being an ******* in someone's living room, and we all can get thrown out for it.

Grow up before your children do.
FWIW
Lee[/QUOTE]


Thank you very much for the personal insult, Lee. I always like having my tolerence or lack of it equated with my level of maturity.

This is the exact point I've been leary of, so FWIW, shove it.

 

Thanks for making my point for me
If you took it personally, now you know how it feels. It was offered impersonally. Written word /net has little 'give' in interpretation, so limits need by definition to be rigid. Much nicer to shove something soft than rigid. I'll pass on both.
FWIW
Lee

 

And so, even a coversation about what "rules" or "guidelines" we should have gets turned into a venomous personal attack involving the insertion of unnamed items into unimaginable openings.

WTF, chaos reigns.

Can we stay on topic? Rules, some rules, are good, and although I think many of us think interference is bad, and that a free market for behavior should be allowed here, there are other boards for that stuff.

This one, with the exception of the "Other"and "off Topic" categories, is about Ferraris. So, some limit to the awful behavior that is becoming prevalent here, is necessary.

I don't think, "behave yourselves" or, "follow the golden rule" is gonna get it done.

The current short form looks good to me, even thought I've only been here a month or two, easy to understand and enforce, and that's what you want.