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  1. BlueBiturbo

    BlueBiturbo F1 Rookie

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    I'm just curious about the 2004 or 2005 car speed. Anyone knows?

    Here is the scans from a 1994 Magazine. I think it is a 1993 Williams FW15C.
    This car used the 3.5 litre engine.

    0-100 km/h 2.4s
    0-200 km/h 4.9s
    0-300 km/h 11.5s

    So how fast is it now after 12 years of development?
    Any current magazine test lately?
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  2. 62 250 GTO

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    I don't think that information is available any more. Tight lips float ships....
     
  3. iceburns288

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    I think a mid-late 80s (whenever the massive turbo era was) with the 1400hp F1 cars would get the fastest F1 times in a straight line, considering the rear tires were much wider and allowed much more grip.

    Modern tires 'suck', (especially in 05) because of the grooves. A 2004 F1 car would be the fastest yet around a track, having 900+hp and producing 30 percent more downforce than an 05 F1 car. Plus stickier tires.
     
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    Yes, FIA rules are always intended to slow the cars down every year for "safety" reason, especially after Senna's death in 1994, but thanks to the genius of the F1 engineers they always managed to make it faster. Compare the lap times of a 1993 F1 in Hockenheim ring to 2004, is it faster or slower (I honestly don't know but my bet is faster).
     
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    I like the braking. Stop from 62 mph in 59 feet.
     
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    I don't think the current cars are any faster in a straight line; in fact the 1966-67 cars, without wings that produced drag (as well as downforce) may have been just as fast. It's the braking and cornering that continues to improve, and that's where the improvement in lap times comes from.
     
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    Back when they use 3500cc engine it produced 750-800hp
    Right Now the 3000cc engine produce about 850+ ??? So it should be as fast as a 94 car
     
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    Today's technology can very well make today F1 cars go much faster than 20 years ago, but now there are tough safety regulations, much tougher than 20 years ago and those applied to slow the cars down... So, in the end, The speed and acceleration of today's car aren't that much faster, not as much as technology can serve, but Today's car are much, much saver than that 20 years ago...
     
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    At one of the Indy F1 races I got to stand directly behind the cars as they practiced their launches on Saturday. There was no apparent wheel spin, no squat, no roll. It looked like they were being pulled by a catapult on an aircraft carrier. And the sound was truly awesome from about 50 feet behind.
     
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    R&T didn't "officially" test the car. IIRC, they stood just outside the track with a radar gun and "extrapolated" performance figures. Still, they're probably fairly right on for most of the numbers.
     
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    Last year the top teams managed in the mid 900bhp range; now with the new regulations it's down to the low 900's, or what it was in the latter stages of 2003.
     
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    0 to 100 to 0 in 6 seconds, 900 plus hp and 18,000rpm. The pole times in 05' with the new regs, less down force, tyre rules etc.... have already matched the 04' poles times....
     
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    The cars are slower than last year though. Just look at fastest laps.

    Pole times are due primarily to the low fuel.
     
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    Button has just broken the lap record during testing at Barcelona. This is why the rules have to keep changing. The cars are still getting faster and faster, despite more reliable engines, less aero and silly grooved tyres.
    [ur]http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=24064[/url]

    I think it is safe to say that a 2005 F1 car could beat a 1994 F1 car around any track.
     
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    The BMW F1 engine from 2002 could actually rev to 19,200rpm. This limit was never used in practice, however it did break the 19,000rpm barrier (first F1 car ever to do so) during Montoya's qualifying lap at Monza (which at the time also broke the record for fastest F1 lap ever, based on average speed).

    All the top teams since then have had engines which can rev over 19,000rpm, but for reasons of longevity they never do so during race weekends anymore. The maximum revs you're likely to see are in the mid to high 18,000rpm range, and the normal shift point is usually around 18,200rpm.
     
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    The Allianz safety videos for the Williams FW26 said it goes 0-100 km/h in 2.7 seconds, slower than the FW15 according to your stats.
     
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    In England we have a couple of good motoringTV programs, Last year one of them, 5th Gear, raced a quarter of a mile with a BAR driven by Jenson, a factory Honda world superbike riden by Michael Rutter and a power boat.

    Forget the boat, they had to give it a flying start to even give it a chance, but it was still nowhere.

    They did the best of three, on the first run the F1 car didn't even move, round one to the bike! it transpired that the car had problem with the anti stall device, after a lot of fussing around by honda technicians with laptops they decided the only way to get the car of the line was to switch it off.

    In the second and third runs the story is slightly different. For the first 100m the car and bike are pretty much level. you can hear the traction control cutting the sparks to the cylinders to prevent to much wheelspin. then when they reach about 100mph or so and the car is generating enough down force and grip to allow the engine to sing. the car just streaks away from the bike as if the rider has just hit the brakes. The helicopter shots are amazing, Its an awesome display of what 900+Hp in a a 600Kg car can do.
    the car records about a 9 seconds for the 1/4.

    I've just found the clip available for download, unfortunately it costs £1.50 but I think its worth it to silence all those Bikes are faster than cars critics!

    http://www.7digital.com/shops/assets/fifthgear/features.aspx

    Cheers Scotty.
     
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    Yup, awesome video (despite the cringe-inducing Honda plugging from the drivers). It's available for free at revs.tv ;)
     
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    I was at Monza in '04 when Rubens set the unoffical fastest lap in F1 (so far). I pulled the spec from the formula1 web site. I believe Monza is considered the fastest track still on the F1 calendar, isn't it?

    Fastest Lap: Rubens Barrichello 1:21.046

    The commentators on TV were speculating that this may stand for quite some time, since the new 2005 regulations were designed to slow down the cars. We'll see...
     
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    I believe Montoya has the fastest unofficial from pre-Qual last year. Rubens has the fastest official lap from qualy.
     
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    Yep. Montoya did a 1:19.525!
     

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