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  1. HMS

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    Hey guys...I'm looking to buy an automatic pool cleaner. There are so many out there and the prices really vary. Which one do you guys who have a pool and an automatic bottom cleaner, recommend? Kreepy Krauly?

    Thanks in advance
     
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  3. UroTrash

    UroTrash Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I never had much luck with the cheapies that run off the pool's suction/filter system like the Barracuda or Kreepy Krawler.

    This is a self powered machine that really works well and does not get gagged on sticks and oak leaves (expensive but worth it, BTW I'm not promoting this particular vendor or price, it was just a quick reference to the model on eBay):

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=66782&item=4390415246&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


    That is the exact machine I have and am very pleased.
     
  4. WCH

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    Hey Uro, I have a roughly 20x40 pool, have been using the good old Polaris for some time, but hate looking at the tubing. I assume you don't leave the Dolphin in the pool - do you run it, then put it away for a day or two until you need it again?

    I could just disconnect the Polaris, of course, but I'm pretty lazy.
     
  5. BWS550

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    ZACK,

    I HAVE A AQUA-BOT TURBO, COSTS ABOUT 1500.00, WORKS GREAT AND NEVER LOOK BACK, MY POOL IS ABOUT 700 SQ FOOT AND 24,OOO GALLONS

    GOOD LUCK,
    BRUCE
     
  6. RacerX_GTO

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    I'm guessing this is an after thought with the pool? The pool builder did not have one installed?

    There a few variables you need to consider before choosing a pool sweep, especially if you are DIY.

    There are vac cleaners and sweep cleaners which require either a water suction or water boost feed. Vac sweeps can connect directly to your skimmer with an attachment plate or can plug directly into the side of the pool with a connector that the builder installed. Vac sweeps work with most any pool that didn't have a cleaner installed with the pool.

    The best Vac cleaners:
    Kreepy Krauly and Hayward Pool Vac

    Booster pump type cleaners need their own pump to work, or in the case of the Polaris 380, works off the existing return line at the filter. Now, if you are looking at your existing pump and filter setup and you only see a pump and filter, chances are you are going to need to buy a booster pump that goes with it and run extra pipe out to your pool. You have two options to feeding water to your sweep, either dangle a hose over the deck, or drain the pool and drill a hole in the wall for the special adapter. I don't reccomend that DIY. If your pool builder didn't put that in, that's the only way you are going to get a boosted water supply to your pool for your seep.

    Best Pool sweeps:

    Polaris 280, this one is gear driven
    (The 380 and the 360 is a pain in the ass. Two filters that keep clogging up prevent this one from working at its full potential. Secondly, these models are belt driven. One day you'll look in in your pool and see that your sweep has died, well, chances are the damn belt broke. The 280 is virtually maint. free. The only thing you have to service is dump is the bag.)

    The above models I mentioned are the best of the best. These models last the longest in their service in all their miserable lives underwater :D


    Source: My dad owns a swimming pool repair service.. and yours truly helped once upon a time.
     
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  8. BT

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    Definitely stay away from the Barracuda. I highly recommend either the Navigator or the Pool Vac Ultra by Navigator. Been using the navigator for three years with no repairs needed.

    BT
     
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  10. jimpo1

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    I've had both a Kreepy Krauly and a belt driven Polaris. I hated the Kreepy. It was noisy, it got jammed all the time, and it generally sucked. (;)) The Polaris is less maintenance than the Kreepy was, but I don't love it either. Mine is the belt driven model, and I frequently have to figure out why it's not working as well as it should. You get used to the hoses, but the rest is kind of a pain. If were buying another, I'd probably get the gear driven Polaris, just because I'm familiar with how they work.
     
  11. GrigioGuy

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    Both of my pools have had Polaris 280s in them. Great little device, just keeps running. Hoses are ugly, but that doesn't matter much to me.
     
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  13. HMS

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    thanks guys..
     
  14. Ed P.

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    If you're looking into pressure side cleaners with booster pumps, check out the hayward phantom.
     
  15. Dr C

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    Last year, I traded a Polaris for a Hayward Viper. Both use a booster pump which is the only way I'd go. The Polaris was gear driven which means that, over time, the plastic gears wore out and had to be replaced. The Viper is driver with water pressure (I'm pretty sure it is) which seems better than the gear setup.

    Either way, a sweep that runs off of a booster pump works very well.
     
  16. UroTrash

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    Actually i use it several times upon opening then only 2 or 3 times the rest of the season. I'm pretty lazy about it so if I don't see stuff on the bottom, I dont use it. It has a 8 or maybe 12 hour program then cuts itself off. You pull out the filter bag, turn it inside out and hose it off, let it dry them put it back in. I leave the skimmer running 24/7 all season, I guess most people do that??
     
  17. GrigioGuy

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    I suppose it depends on what kind of trees you have around the pool. We have a massive oak that overhangs part of the pool, so the Polaris is pretty much required all the time.

    When we're swimming we just make sure the booster pump is off and set the crawler next to the wall -- no problem
     
  18. jimpo1

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    24/7? Damn, you must have cheap electricity where you live. Mine runs 8-10 hours/day, depending on the time of year. I run it at night in the winter, daytime in the summer.
     
  19. UroTrash

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    Winter? Lord I love Texas!


    I open May 1, close August 30.
     
  20. parkerfe

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    I too have neem well pleased with my Polaris. I have a black one that doesn't discolor like the while/blue ones do.
     
  21. Ferrari 1

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    I also have the Harward. It came highly recommended and has been fine. No problems whatsoever. Also, comes with a one year warranty and the dealer said to bring it back in right before the warranty expires and they will replace a bunch of moving parts on it. Don't like the hose though, but I guess you get used to it. Better than seeing a bunch of stuff on the bottom of the pool.
     
  22. Dr C

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    We had problems with algae until we started leaving the filter running 24 hours a day.

    Also, adding No Phos or some such product, that binds the phosphorus in the water so that the algae cannot benefit from it, made all of the difference in the world. Since using No Phos, we rarely have to shock the pool and our use of chemicals has probably been cut almost in half. Don't have the stench of chlorine anymore because we rarely have to really shock it.

    We have row of about 20+ hedgerow trees on the lot line behind the pool, that drop lots of "stuff" into and around the pool. But, we only have to run the Viper pool sweep about 4 hours a day (usually in the evening).
     
  23. WCH

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    Interesting thread, we have a Polaris 280, the black one as we have a darker bottom pool. Works well, no problems. We're in the mid-Atlantic area, open as early as we can usu mid-March and close in Nov or December - occasionally I have to run 24/7 to lessen freeze risk. DE filter/chlorine. At our old house, with trees ringing the pool, we always closed before the leaves fell. We run the skimmer during daylight hours only, and the Polaris for an hour or two a day.
     
  24. robert biscan

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    I have 2 Kreepy Krawlers in my pool since 1999. I have had to replace parts over the years and also use thrusters to avoid getting caught at steps since my pool is so irregularly shaped. I also have a concrete post in the pool to hold up the roof over a patio.
     
  25. mustgofaster

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    Polaris 360 has been great for me! Keeps my 28,000 gallon pools clean clean clean.
     
  26. RacerX_GTO

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    Taking a que from Ryan in digging up old posts ;) ......no, actually, this is cool, I just saw this thing today.

    Polaris has a new kicka$$ sweep out

    Polaris 480Pro

    If you already own a Polaris, here's what cool about the new one,
    * QUAD jets with larger sweep diameter to scoop up acorns and large leaves.
    * Stainless steel chain drive(just like vintage Ferrari's!)
    * Zipper bag, no more velcro that eventually gets weak over time
    * Oversized tires, new wheel style
    * cool F50-like spoiler looking handle
    * UV resistant materials, as you know, the older Polaris' seem to fade out.

    Pictures, info and all that other stuff here:
    http://www.polarispoolsystems.com/home.htm
     
  27. swilliams

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    I'm diggin' this one out of the grave yard:)

    OK whats todays best automatic pool cleaner?

    Im thinking about an Aquabot or the Polaris 280. Any new automatic cleaners out there?
     

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