Help identifying late 50s era Ferrari

0711 GT again, back in 1989.

Marcel Massini

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Mine has been fully restored but got a new windscreen and incorrect bracket. And no shields.

Marcel Massini

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very cool - what scale is that?

assume these are rare models?

 

1:8 scale.
Length is 54 cms.
These promotional models were built in 1953 for Italian liquor company Toschi to celebrate Alberto Ascari's worldchampion wins.
There are photos with Ascari and Enzo Ferrari with such a Toschi model (Ferrari 500 F2 single seater). From poor memory they are in one of the official yearbooks.
No idea how many of these models were built 70 years ago. I have owned mine since 1969.

Marcel Massini

 

Marcel, sometimes you can find accessories for the 500 F2 Toschi on ebay :
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/294914253340?hash=item44aa42621c:g:fgwAAOSwu4BV6Wqj&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoNmMR3wGYGMs2qmKFsTDiWzT8J%2Bg6crcruByP0FHEw9qHqvPBexVM2%2BFowqvdNcwop15WuCGQTab3pRXIYgWADy3rHov9O2ORdT%2B4WEq%2BKEVe6AyhJ49FyZU4uiCny7UYGvCuhrgHKKD%2FfZio08%2BfxUOodbOf4g5%2B2EsOrobc2u5mqI%2B9S4UaW3dKU2ml%2F2%2BtBQccuiZUlpoxQG4H%2BeaoFI%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8bvivPqYA

The history of my Toschi is the following.
After the death of Pierre Marco, the last director of the Bugatti factory, his family dispersed all its archives and collections. Many things ended up in the trash. A friend of mine managed to recover some drawings and photos. There were sketches made by Ettore's hand. He also got this 500 F2 Toschi.
Pierre Marco's son-in-law told him that the model had been offered to Pierre Marco by Enzo Ferrari himself. In 1980 I traded a Bugatti model for the Toschi.

Back to the Ellena...

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https://www.ebay.fr/itm/175317336904?hash=item28d1ba4348:g:29MAAOSwH5Nip0iL&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoFFdb8D0%2BIP2RgXwlENsgL4lKCnZwKEhXD0XmzQ52vjQLqscCxSWu96NMgFAZzR3cSU%2FrJEWFCrmrjh2q55WKWhqV0VzG2eze6J5AiYcLk6mHe872gaNv0D%2FbX8d5ZMRc9RuLvjo4LjenlAStOq33lFZ84F9uqGlynX3IOSIj67IOIFP8hcykTG3E4oND1%2B4ZVhVHl4KJkhEIR%2FD1hhgmfE%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8qQi_TqYA

 

I am glad to see that you finally graduated to a 4-cylinder Ferrari, Marcel! Actually, it may have been your first Ferrari!

 

Wow! You guys are really good. I'm amazed.

 

But what about the time it crashed at Brands Hatch?

 

What is the point deduction for those restoration errors? Are they properly identified in the IAC/PFA guidelines?

 

neat collectable - ill have to keep my eyes open for one!

 

Open your wallet . . .

 

no doubt.....guessing values? with an unopened bottle ?

 

I think that the chances of finding one with an original, unopened bottle are pretty slim. Estimate values are $2000-5000 depending upon condition, originality.

 

Collector Studio has one, no bottle, but, wow, the price. Drive you to drink.

https://collectorstudio.com/product/1-7-1953-ferrari-500-f2-toy-car/

Perry

 

Ahem, as a Finn I just love booze - be it cherry brandy, I just love the smell of cherry brandy in the morning, the smell of victory - but I just have to point out that you are killing this thread. I'm afraid that the OP does not dare to come out and disturb you with some old Ferrari nonsense anymore. So be it.

 

You're right kare. I'm the one who started talking about the Toschi. Sorry. As for the Ellena, I don't know. But someone will find.

 

I am the former owner of the 1960 ? Boano designed Ferrari. My husband purchased it used in West Palm Beach Fla approximately 196O. Unfortunately I do not recall the seller name but he was part of a bunch of amateur foreign car lovers who raced sport cars in various places in Florida such as Dunnellon, Sebring and Avon Park. Of course we used this car as an everyday street car.
many people asked me how much mileage I got. They thought it was one of those little economy cars like a Fiat. With 12 cylinders I explained I got 7 mpg. When our first son was born in August 1961, there was no room under the hood to install AC. And the heavily upholstered Seats would fold forward , touching the baby seat every time I put on brakes So I requested a car that had AC and room for baby stuff. It was lots of fun to shift through hair turns and hear that unique sound only a Ferrari makes. We replaced it with a beautiful BRG 3.8 Jaguar sedan. Pretty sure the Ferrari went back to West Palm Beach exotic car dealer.

 

Thank you. Welcome to the forum.

 

Yes thank you for the memories! Anyone familiar with the West Palm Beach connection?

 

It might have been Gerry Sutterfield but I’m not sure he was down here that early. Of course, Briggs Cunningham was in Palm Beach, probably Jim Kimberly too. Charlie Kolb? The dealer in Ft. Lauderdale was Pleasure Cars, owned by Robert Publicker.

 

0847 GT.

Marcel Massini

 

Mainly Pinin Farina designed and built by Ellena, the son in law of Boano, with Ellena taking over the Boano factory.

 

The "Boano" prototypes with slightly varying rear fender shapes were designed by Pinin Farina. Paperwork suggests they started construction of 9 cars late in 1955, but may have finished as few as three before construction was transferred to Boano where the design more or less seems to have drifted towards the final version.

Have never found any material on who designed the high roof update and a new dash in summer of 1957. The high roof mule or prototype had a badge, but it does not even remotely resemble anything I've ever seen so I'm leaning towards some relatively small workshop making commercial vehicle conversions. The car was photographed in the factory yard with Hawthorn kicking the tyres late summer 1957 (see post #15). Ezio Ellena took over Boano workshop about the same time when Felice Mario Boano was assigned to work under Fiat head of styling Dante Giacosa, which seems to be the reason the high roof is now carrying the name of Ellena. Boano was a very capable man, in earlier years he had revived Ghia, to save the widow from financial demise, as he put it.

 

Thank you for your great input! Do you have a recollection of what color the car and the interior was?

I also looked up some Florida-based names in my files in hope one might ring a bell: Bob Cressman, Phil Baumgartner, Walt Lenz, Robert Publicker, Jim Hunt, Lloyd "Lucky" Casner, Spencer Litchie, Gerry Sutterfield, Bill Frick.