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Help spec'ing 430 interior

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  1. Scotty

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    Hi all. I'm told that my time to order my 430 coupe/6 speed is rapidly approaching. I have most of the details worked out, but would appreciate some "interior design" opinions. I will be getting Rubino Micallizato (metallic dark red with big metal flakes--almost candy apple) exterior, no shields, black calipers, and Challenge Stradale wheels. I will be doing aluminum interior trim and a yellow rev counter. Power heated seats (probably not with Daytona inserts).

    (As for comments--I don't think shields belong on anything but a race car or a race oriented street car, and I think the interupt the design lines, though I respect all those that like the look. Without shields, I think black is the best caliper color to go with Rubino. Sport seats are uncomfortable to me--wish they weren't, but that's the way it is. Daytona inserts look cool, but I like the standard seat look as well.)

    CARBON FIBER trim is not an option--my wife hates the look, but she puts up with my cars, so I'll live with that.

    I am thinking about doing the new two tone interior option--tan as the main color, with cuio as the accent. (For those that don't know, this means the center panels of the seats, center panels of the doors, headliner, e-brake boot, lower tunnel trim, and extended leather bench and sills would be cuio). I think those two leather colors (kind of tone on tone) will look richer but not "over the top". I am thinking of going with black carpet, both to set off the leathers, to avoid cleaning hassles, and because Ferrari's tan carpet really looks to yellow to me.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. jamie140

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    I'd reverse the color choice between main and contrasting.
     
  3. MAINEMAN

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    You've already stated the reasons why you don't want shields and Daytona inserts, but I personally would not buy a car without them. If Ferrari made shields standard, would that change your mind?

    If you opt for the 2-tone interior, I agree with Jamie. However, if it were me I would order cuoio interior (with matching steering wheel and dash) and get Daytona seats with tan inserts and tan stitching throughout. In either case I would not get black carpets as you've now added a 4th color to your car (unless you're sticking with the standard black dash). Again, go with cuoio carpets which match the leather color more closely than tan. Another option would be to order bordeaux carpets which probally match your exterior color pretty well.

    Good luck and have fun!
     
  4. BritBlaster

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    I think Sabbia (sand) interior would look awesome with the Rubino exterior -- I personally feel that Cuoio/Tan would "clash" a little. Not that either choice is horrible... but if I didn't go Sabbia, black would be my reluctant 2nd choice.

    I've seen pics of a 3-color interior done in tan variations, and it didn't appeal to me. Can't find the pics unfortunately. I don't think a 2-tone would look bad, but it's a little "out there" and might affect ability to sell at trade-in time...

    This thread is interesting
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83741
    Because it shows what appears to be a sabbia interior on a blue car, and the cuoio interior on a rubino-like car...
     
  5. BritBlaster

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    That would never happen for the standard models -- Ferrari must make an extra $1200+ gravy-money from selling shields; I can't see them killing that cash-cow anytime soon.
    And, while I admit that most purchasers seem to prefer shields, there is a substantial minority, myself included, that would prefer to get cars without them for the reasons Scotty lists. A great deal of people also don't care either way; to each his own...
     
  6. cmparrenzo

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    I do not know how long you are planning to own this automobile, if you are going to keep it forever, why ask our opinion?

    If you are going to sell the car in the next few years, you are hurting yourself by buying a stripped down car... No shields will cost you at the time of sale. No Daytona seats is a HUGE mistake.... No carbon fiber? not a big deal. Challenge wheels? Great Idea, they look great!


    You are already buying an "off-color" the interior with black carpets will add another few months to your sale time, if you are worried about dirty carpets, buy a Range Rover to buy when you go out in the mud.

    Its your car, are you building it for you or the next guy?
     
  7. Scotty

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    I find your comments a bit confrontational, so allow me to answer your concerns and explain my thinking.

    I'm building it for myself, and I am not terribly concerned about resale--and I agree with your comments on shields and Daytonas (and the off color)--I could launch into a diatribe on what I think is wrong with the currently styled Daytona choice in the 430, but that's for another thread.

    BUT, the reason I am asking is that I have a hard time visualizing how these choices will look. If Ferrari had a computer that allowed one to visualize interior shots in different colors, I wouldn't need to ask the question. But, it is PRECISELY because I am buying it for me that I really want to get it right. I posted this hoping for thoughtful feedback on choices, comments from folks who have seen certain elements of the combination I am talking about, etc. I realize opinions are personal, but I find the feedback useful.

    Also, I use my car to run errands (sometimes) in the rain (sometimes) and occasionally drive it on dirt roads. To say nothing of the dirty paddocks at the track, which I also do sometimes. I have nothing against cleaning carpet, but my car is not a complete garage queen and if it I can come up with an interior that I really like AND that looks good without shampooing the carpets after each drive, so much the better.
     
  8. BritBlaster

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    since you plan on tracking your car -- have you tried sitting in the different sizes of the sport seat?
     
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    The only opinion I have regarding your questions & post is that I would make sure that your carpets are the same color as your dash. People's opinions vary on this like everything else, but I personally like when carpets match the dash. Here is a pic of my interior, which I did not get to spec out. If I did, I would have chosen dark blue carpets instead of tan. I don't dislike my interior in the least, I would just prefer it with dark carpets, as I think it flows better like that...
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  11. Scotty

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    Morgie--yup, and I don't find any of them that comfortable. This is primarily a street car (I have a dedicated track car) that will go to the track a couple of times a year. Given the fear of stuffing it into a wall, the standard seats are OK for how fast I drive on the track.

    JeffB--that was exactly my thought. I am going with the black dash (I just don't like tan dashes in Ferraris--there are several local cars spec'd this way, and it just doesn't do it for me.).

    Keep those opinions coming!
     
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    My turn to chime in again. If you plan on doing black dash/wheel and carpets, I would definately skip the cuoio and stay with just tan. Just my opinion (hey you asked for it!) but adding cuoio will give you four colors for your car - too much. It sounds like you're not into "fluff" options, but tan stitching on the black dash and wheel may look nice too.
     
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    Just a couple more weeks and they start putting my 430 together. I agree with Jeff !00% about the carpets. At first I did not like the Daytona seat in the 430 and was going to order the standard seats, but I thought the interior would look to plan so I ended up ordering them, though without the strips.
     
  15. Scotty

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    OK--after a weekend of thinking about this, discussing ideas with my wife, etc. this is where I'm at.

    I am going to reverse the colors, thus Cuio will become the main color and either tan or sabbia (gotta check out the samples at the dealer) will be an accent. Carpets, dash, steering wheel will be black. Will do all of the stiching in Cuio (so this will mostly show up on the dash and wheel).

    Have decided to do Daytonas as well. Likely Cuio mainly with Cuio vent stripes, but the leather under the vent stripes will be either the tan or sabbia.

    The only remaining issue is dash trim. I agree (somewhat) with the comments that having aluminum dash pieces will add a 4th color. My wife has agreed that the carbon dash pieces and a carbon fiber driving zone would be OK. The issue is that the manual shifter, gate, and gate support box, as well as all of the pedals, are still aluminum--and there is no option that addresses that.

    For anyone who has read this far, which would you choose (the aluminum or the carbon)? I do think the carbon steering wheel looks great--but it will clash with the shifter...

    Thanks--Scott
     
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    I think Valence is working on a CF shifter box. I know I will want one.
     
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    I think a few accent pieces such as the shifter gate in aluminum will look fine -- I hope so, since I also am getting CF and CF driving zone. I think the aluminum on the dash looks poor compared to the shifter gate since one looks very plasticy and the other looks life an aircraft-quality machined component. I would get it that way, and if you decide you can't stand it then you should be able to get some 3rd party components to replace it.

    Your interior choices sound interesting -- can't wait to see what you finally come up with and how it looks in the flesh....
     
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    I think the shifter and gate are actually stainless steel. They don't look exactly like the aluminum trim. Having said that, I have aluminum trim. Personally, I find the CF to too shiny and plastic looking, but that's just my opinion.

    Dave
     
  19. nberry

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    I like the carbon. You have selected rich looking colors and the CF would work well with them. The driver zone in CF is nice looking but since your are getting manual I am not sure the driver zone option can be ordered. The steering wheel in CF alone can be special ordered and probably a lot cheaper. BTW, the aluminum tends to dress down the interior.

    The gate and shifter I believe are stainless steel and in my opinion a real eye sore but it is the price you pay for having a 6 speed.:)

    Since your doing some tracking are you ordering CB?
     
  20. Scotty

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    No--but they would be thing to have. A friend, who is an excellent track driver, ex-race driver, and 430 owner (with CB), says this about the CB's--"They don't stop you any quicker, but they keep your braking points consistent lap after lap, session after session."

    The reasons I'm not ordering them are:

    1) Cost
    2) I have a dedicated track car
    3) For the few times a year I have the 430 out, I don't really want to be probing the edges all that closely, so having to slow a bit/brake a bit earlier is not a big loss--it isn't a race
    4) Did I mention cost
     
  21. MAINEMAN

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    A friend has a 6 speed 430 Spider with every CF option including the Driver Zone and the console/sill option (not sure of the name) so it's possible. His car has a CF shift knob. Perhaps this is in lieu of the CF paddles? IMO, the CF Driver Zone is a "must have" option. Then again, I like fluff.
     
  22. kizdan

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    I am not a fan of burgundy on the 2-seat cars (you can get away with it on a 612). I have seen a 360 in that color, and it does absolutely nothing for me. Plan on keeping the car for a long time, for that color will kill it's resale desireability. Personal taste, right?

    If you insist on that exterior color, do not do a 2-tone interior, it will be way too busy. I would do a cream interior, with Daytona seat inserts in burgundy. I would then special-order a Stradale-style steering wheel, with the accents on the wheel in burgundy. Leave the dash in black, and do the carpets in black as well. Do aluminum trim. Burgundy stitching would be a nice touch, but not a must.

    Exterior - I would put on silver brake calipers. I would also do the ball-polished standard wheels.

    Regardless of how you choose your color combos, you will absolutely love driving this car!
     
  23. nberry

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    A friend of mine who does track his 430 claimed the standard brakes did not stand up to even the mininum track work. They started to fade almost immediately.

    Nevertheless I certainly understand your reasoning particularly regarding the cost. It is insane but we Ferrari owners do tend to let out emotions lighten our wallets.:)
     
  24. Scotty

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    Some of that could be technique, or a track with long straights. I do fade my 360 brakes at the local track. But, the fade doesn't ruin my fun at the track.

    Plus, I think the CC brakes will be a resale disadvantage. For dedicated track junkies this won't be true, but for others pad replacement is big bucks, and rotor replacement even bigger bucks. Like the way F1's lose their new sale premium in the resale market, I think CC brakes will be worth no more, and possible less, in the future.
     
  25. Gary(SF)

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    That's very easily solved...spend $325 on a set of Ferodo DS2500 pads. The stock pads are simply too soft for track work. The Ferodos are a good street/track compromise, and eliminate 95% of the track fade.

    Gary
     

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