heritage certificate

I haven't tried to get a heritage certificate on my cars. Carl went through all the hoops to get his, hopefully he will provide the answers.

 

I got mine for both of my cars pretty easily ( within 48hrs). How old is your car? I think they only issue them if built prior to 1980. Also gearbox number seems short. Found the following info on the owners site regarding gearbox no's

"On the mid-engined V8 models (from the 308 to the 328) the gearbox number can only be found by putting the car on a hoist. The number is underneath the gearbox housing, on the right at the back"

If still no luck, try emailing them directly

Cheers

 

hey what is a heritage certificate and what does it get you?

 

The short answer to your question is it gets you nothing at all. The certificate is a bit of paper that says your car is a genuine Ferrari model "x",
manufactured on "x" date, fitted with such and such engine/gearbox etc. It also states original colour and trim as I recall.

The certificate bears NO resemblance to the historical "build sheet" that was the birth certificate for each individual car issued up to (I think) the Daytona model. These went into great detail about all manner of aspects of the car.
I have a copy of the build sheet for my Fathers 275 GTB/4 if anyone is interested in seeing one (in Italian of course).

 

If your car was delivered via Maranello Concessionaires in the UK they have an 'archivist' who has history files on all the cars that you can get for a fee, which (in our case) included a copy of the build sheet as well. The 365 GT was delivered to a Yorkshireman on the 5th of January 1969 and we got a lot of copies of correspondence about it. If someone has a UK delivered car, contact me and I'll dig out the guy's details.

 

Not entirely true. If you do get one issued, it does confirm your car hasn't been bastardised and has "matching numbers"

 

I did say it was the "short" answer. The term "matching numbers" is only valid until the Fiat era/Universal manufacturer ID stuff took hold with the 308 series (maybe earlier). The older cars had matching engine and chassis numbers; but the newer stuff has numerically different chassis/engine numbers. The value of a particular Ferrari having the same engine that it was "born" with varies. In the older cars it is very important indeed (for values); but the modern mass produced stuff isn't as important.
The idea of matching numbers in a modern F1 car would be hilarious..........

A heritage certificate is an interesting thing to have I suppose; but I was disapointed to see the lack of detail relative to the historical Build sheets of the "old days".

 

Very true. Very disappointed the build sheets aren't issued for cars post 1969. Anyone know why??

 

I don't think they actually exist for the production cars post 1969.
Even the limited production supercars like the F50 don't seem to have them.

 

but u are not old enuf to be heritage listed, thats for really old farts like..............................mmmmmmmmmmm..............oh yeah u are over 45

 

Hi John,

The heritage certificate is only available for cars pre-1980. It's nowhere near as nice as the pre-1969 ones but it does give you some great information such as the day the car left the factory, the interior and exterior colour code. Scott is no quite correct about the matching numbers, all Ferrari's have matching numbers, but from about 1971, the numbers were not the same. Ferrari will not issue a heritage certificate for any car that doesn't have it original engine, transmission and chassis number as it was supplied when it left the factory.

Regards,

Carl.

 

I think you misinterpreted "matching numbers". Yup, the modern production car has a designated chassis/engine when it leaves the factory. The term "matching numbers" as I understand it originally meant that the chassis and the engine shared the same number. For example my Fathers 275GTB/4 was chassis 10385 and engine 10385. My 308 GTB as a modern production example is chassis 21027 engine 2138 i.e. clearly not numerically matching as it does with the 275 GTB/4.

As I understand it the modern interpretation of matching numbers is the current chassis/engine number "matches" those designated by the factory when it was made originally. Not the same as the original interpretation of "matching numbers".

I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong

 

The Uk historian is Tony Willis

PM me for his email addresses if you need them.

He got all my 512BB info very quickly. He can help with any model.

 

Not that I'm an expert, but that is exactly what I thought.