Heppers, My 430F1 has always had this problem. When accelerating through the gears, right after pulling the UP paddle to select the next gear, there seems to be a hesitation. If it were a three-pedal car, I would say Im not bringing in enough throttle in coordination with release of the clutch. The hesitation lasts about 1 second then disappears. There are no other symptoms. Is this normal? Tom 2007 F430 Coupé
This is the cars TCU interrupting the fuel delivery (like letting off the throttle in a 3 pedal car) for the upshift. Without that pause, each shift would be a bang and likely destroy the clutch in very short order. It may feel like 1 second pause but its really not........
Guys, Thanks for the thoughts. During the one-second upshift hesitation, the occupants heads bob forward, indicating deceleration. Youd get the same effect if you suddenly lift your foot from the gas pedal while accelerating. There definitely seems to be a drag, not just a lack of acceleration and not like a three-pedal car between disengaging the clutch and re-engaging the clutch. Tom 2007 F430 Coupé
This is not normal if you are applying throttle when shifting and you are in Sport or Race mode. I have experienced a SLIGHT delay when I lift off the throttle as I am upshifting. Looking through some older threads I see mention of air in the F1 system as a possible cause for delayed shift times.
Can anyone with knowledge add if there is any additional wear is being done to the clutch if staying on throttle during upshifts? I tend to drive normally with a slight release of throttle as I engage the paddles...
F1 is designed for full throttle up shifts. Worst wear occurs in reverse uphill, or very light throttle that only partially engages clutch. Holding car position on hill w throttle. On or off- ur good. Have fun.
I have no knowledge of additional clutch wear, maybe one of the Pros will chime in but the manual states "• Shift gears without releasing the accelerator pedal" The shifts are much smoother when you have positive throttle position at the time of the upshift. I have 24K miles on my 07 430 and zero F1 system issues. I would think that since the F1 system operates at about 800#s of pressure that there might be more wear on the transmission parts when shifting at high RPMs but that is the way the car is designed to be operated. Ferrari F430 Owner's Manual (Page 69 of 134)
It's absolutely standard, I thought I had the same problem when I first purchased my F1 430, I have learnt to love that slight delay and bang as it pushes you back in the seat for the next power delivery gear. To stop the "nodding passenger 1 second delay" you need to learn how to feather off the throttle slightly just as you hit the paddle shift, don't want to sound patronising but this is the answer, when you get it on point it's as smooth as silk. Funny thing is now I've learnt this I prefer the 1 second delay feeling, its brutal
there shouldn't be any delay during the mechanical shifts. If there is any delay I would say its a delay of when I pull the paddle and for the computer to register the response. This can be fixed with race mode and aggressive right foot.
Have them set it down until the car drags just slightly in 1st ad idle, it will make all the difference.
Thanks, guys, I will be taking Izzy to Boardwalk on Tuesday. Larry mentioned the PIS. We'll know more after he has a chance to drive it. Tom 2007 F430F1 Coupé
All, Took the 430 to Boardwalk to get the new key programmed and have them look at the hesitation. Larry says it was operating correctly but that a slight lift, even a subliminal one, would help to reduce the hesitation. On the way home, I tried it and lifting pretty much makes the hesitation go away. Due to the small movement of the accelerator pedal to even major throttle settings, "subliminal" is pretty difficult. I have an e-mail out to Larry asking for his opinion on the idea that lifting causes accelerated clutch wear. Also, being of advanced years, full throttle operation of the car everywhere will not be happening. I reserve that for when I encounter Bubba in his mom's Taurus. BTW, the first visit to Boardwalk, while short and simple, was quite pleasant. So far, so good. Tom 2007 F430F1 Coupé
Guys, Larry wrote back (he's good about that) and said there is not an issue with premature clutch wear when lifting, at least subliminally, so I will continue working in that direction. Thanks for the all the thoughts, everyone. Tom 2007 F430F1 Coupé
