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  1. Steve R

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    #1 Steve R, Jul 21, 2005
    For real....

    I've got an old Radial Arm Saw I put-up for sale in my local Recycler. I bought the thing for some $125 about 10 years ago and just don't use it much anymore, I'd prefer the empty storage space. So I put it up for sale for $150 expecting some grunt to toss me $100. I get this email from some guy in another country...something just seems fishy, he's offering me more then I want and he'll likely spend that much or more shipping it to himself...honestly, is this fishy? Is this some kind of scam???

    Greetings,
    Everything sounds well and am okay with the prize $150 and I will be offering you $200 for it so i will want you to keep other buyer's off.Concerning payment I have a friend in the state who is ready to issue you a Certified Cashier's check in Usa funds since I don't have the funds in your currency. For convinient and easy transaction, I have a liable shipping agent who'd be responsible for the shipping as soon as you receive payment for the RADIAL Arm Saw .I will therefore need the following information of yours to forward to my friend before he sends the check.....
    NAME IN FULL........
    ADDRESS IN FULL..........
    STATE..............
    ZIPCODE........
    COUNTRY.........
    CELL/OFFICE/HOME PHONE NUMBER.......
    I await your soonest reply
    MY REGARDS
     
  2. spang308

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    #2 spang308, Jul 21, 2005
    You're kidding right?

    SCAM.
     
  3. Schatten

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    #3 Schatten, Jul 21, 2005
    scam scam scam. happens all the time. you are offered more so you will solidify the 'great deal' but you'll never see a dollar.
     
  4. Steve R

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    #4 Steve R, Jul 21, 2005
    I don't get it...I'm not sending him a dollar, he's going to send me money and only then AFTER I GET THE MONEY, does he get to pick-up the item. How is this a scam?

    What I mean to say, is that I don't see the scam. I'm not going to pay for shipping nor let it go until I have solid money...so it seems pretty bullet-proof, but I still sense bull**** somehow.
     
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    #5 GrigioGuy, Jul 21, 2005
    The certified check is usually bogus in these transactions
     
  6. Schatten

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    #6 Schatten, Jul 21, 2005
    The problem is, he'll send you money - sort of. It will take a while to clear, but it will not. Notice he is not in the country, nor does he have access to US funds. He'll send over a falsified cashier's check, which you'll take to your bank, deposit, and wait, and wait and wait. It will certainly go into your account, but by the time you have shipped it off to Nigeria or whever the hell this guy is... the money will be deducted from your account. You'll be out the saw, shipping and dollars from your bank. Maybe even extra fees.

    This kind of scam is *very* common.
     
  7. Steve R

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    #7 Steve R, Jul 21, 2005
    That is the only conceivable scam I'm figuring...he gives me some whacky form of payment that I can deposit....but it somehow (and after a bit of time) bounces....so I would demand that I confirm the check clearing well before shipping it.

    The only thing that is odd...is that shipping this 180-pound monster will cost more then it's worth. He's gonna pay more to ship it then he can sell it for, unless they pick it up local...but do theive bother for a $100 machine that will be hard to sell? It's not like everyone wants a nearly antiquated wood-working machine.....yeah?
     
  8. Steve R

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    #8 Steve R, Jul 21, 2005
    The thing that erks me the most is his lack of name...he uses "regards" and has a yahoo account.

    Maybe I should tell him he can have it for free but to go F himself?
     
  9. Schatten

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    #9 Schatten, Jul 21, 2005
    just ignore and delete.
     
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    #10 Jay GT4, Jul 21, 2005
    Tell him you don't have a bank account and to send cash via a registered letter. Surely he can go to the bank and exchange foreign currency into US. Smells bad.
     
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    #11 SAFE4NOW, Jul 21, 2005
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    #12 imperial83, Jul 21, 2005
    This is not a good idea! Stay away and do not even bother responding.
     
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    #13 Jdubbya, Jul 21, 2005
    Sounds like a job for Puhlina Wanker!!
     
  14. Steve R

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    #14 Steve R, Jul 26, 2005
    Just thought I'd update things.....it would seem certainly a scam, thought you guys would like to see how it's playing out. After telling "him" that I will send the Radial Arm Saw only AFTER his funds clear the bank and can be confirmed...he sends me this:

    Thanks for the reply and the information you sent . I have just called my client now and he has said he'd be sending a check of $3500 to your contact address in which you will remove the asking price $200 after cashing it in local check cashing store or in any local bank close to your area and an extra $100 for your running around and then wire the balance to the shipper that he will use for all his flight charges and all other shipping charges and for the insurance of the (REDIAL ARM SAW) when being shipped, I hope I can trust you on this?So you will be getting the check next week,The information of the shipper will probably be sent alongside the check. I will notify you if he has sent it. Looking forward to completing this transaction w/ you.Get back to me asap.
    NOTE: ALL CASHING FEES AND WESTERN UNION CHARGES SHOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THER SHIPPING FUNDS.
    REGARDS
    6 Proby Square,
    Blackrock,
    Co Dublin,
    Rep of Ireland

    --End

    So, it would seem they overpay you and then have you send them money from your account to compensate them for their over-payment. Of course, their check bounces and your check is taken & cashed. What a scam. I assume that's the deal? I've had no other calls on the saw and figured I'd play this thing out. So the check will arrive and I'm supposedly able to cash it at any legit place? Huh...
     
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    #15 JaguarXJ6, Jul 26, 2005
    If they send you anything, turn it into the police so they can inform whoever ID is being used to forge a cashiers check (who it will draw on) that their information has been compromised and allow the authorities to track down the scammers. Just treat these kinds of e-mails as spam, delete upon receipt.

    Sunny
     
  16. taber

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    #16 taber, Jul 26, 2005
    If they use Western Union Money Orders, it's a scam. Hell even if they use USPS Money Orders, it might be a scam. Look, no one in their right mind would pay that money for a saw they could buy at the store...

    You'll be able to cash the check/money order, and then soon find out it was fraudulent, and then you'll be screwed since you already sent the item.

    Can't trust anyone on the Internet.. hell I could be lying to you right now!
     
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    #17 Silver Spider, Jul 26, 2005
    Stay well clear of this one.

    My old workplace almost got scammed with a $200,000 Malaysian cheque for laptops. The cheque was genuine and looked real. Then ... the bank almost cleared it....until they realised the amounts and the Payee name had been chemically altered. Luckily my old employer decided to wait until the funds had cleared so didn't lose any stock or money.

    The same client had already paid for and received from us $20,000 worth of laptops on a legitimate cheque. And another firm in New Zealand went bust because of the same people.

    I get a bogus order about every couple of days for plasma tvs through my website. The emails always seem to end with "awaiting your soonest reply" or the people claim the order's urgent. Yeah right!
     

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