HGTS/HGTC/HGT? on 2008 OTO

I'm quite sure there was such a thing, because I gave careful thought to ordering it, but in the end chose not to. Have you looked at the configurator? I believe it's on there.

 

WCH, Don- Here is a basic description of the HGTS and HGTC kits on early 612s. Only differences appear to be the HGTC kit also included CCMs and ball-polished monothics. No use for the HGTC option after CCMs became standard, but an HGTS option could have included the exhaust, wheels and Corsa tires. You can check and see if you have the sport exhaust because it has double wall tailpipes. The tailpipes look like this on the 612 sport exhaust, even though this is a 575M HGTC exhaust because I do not have a good, close-up photo of 612 HGTx tailpipes.

Packages:

HGTS Package includes: Sport Exhaust, Modular Wheel Rims 19″ with Sport Tires, Colored Brake Calipers, Specific Suspension Control ECU, Revised F1 Gearbox Software with Shorter Gear Shift Times.

HGTC Package includes: Carbon-Ceramic Brake Discs, CCM System Mono-block Brake Calipers, Sport Exhaust, Ball-polished Modular Wheel Rims 19″ with Sport Tires, Colored Brake Calipers, Specific Suspension Control ECU and Revised F1 Gearbox Software with Shorter Gear Shift Times.


Taz
Terry Phillips
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I can clear some of this up because I spent some time in 08-09 looking at new 08 612's. In 2008 there were non-OTO's as well as a few OTO's built. The non-OTO's could be ordered with a HGTC or HGTS sport package. I don't remember the exact difference, but I have the actual Ferrari factory sheets at home explaining them (it is like a bulletin to the dealers). If I remember correctly, the HGTC had everything, where the HGTS was a subset - like no ceramic brakes I think, but I would have to double check.

Also, if memory serves me, the OTO did/does not have the option of he HGTC/S packages, as it is supposed to have everything from these packages. This I have never for sure verified.

I too have always been a little confused because the 08 HGTC package came with the sport exhaust. This was readily identifiable by the "Daytona" exhaust tips with the inner and outer barrels, as well as the silver painted mesh around the exhausts in the lower rear spoiler. What always confused me, was that the OTO supposedly has the exact same sport exhaust, but I have never seen an 08 OTO (or 09 or 10 for that matter) that has those same exhaust tips from the 08 HGTC package.

But I have heard an 08 HGTC and an 08 OTO back to back, and the exhaust sounds the same to me. And both sound substantialy different from an 07 with or without whatever sport package existed in 07. I think in 07 the sport package was the HGTS, and no HGTC package existed until 08.

Hope that helps. I could scan the order sheets that explain the HGTC/S packages if anyone is interested.

(By the by, I did not purchase a 612, as after driving a 599 back to back with a 612, I decided to hold out for a 599. Screw the back seats.)

 

WCH- Believe you are correct. I have had real problems finding exactly what they did to the OTOs, but it does appear they included all the goodies above, plus the 599 dual plate clutch and a new transmission based on the 599 box. The OTO also included a new engine, Type F133H, about which I can find few details, but it appears it has 550 hp and 443 ft lbs of torque, up from 540 and 434. They may have done the Superamerica engine trick and shaved the block for higher compression (11.2 vs 11.0) and slightly advanced the cam timing, but I can find no confirmation on that. They added the Mannetino, too.

There really were some major changes made for the OTO, and not just the cosmetic things like the roof. You can spout off that list next time someone calls. Would like to see a full road test on a 2009 OTO with engine specs, gear ratios, etc, to see the real differences. The 2009 Owner's Manual did not document the changes very well and was pretty much a duplicate of the 2006 OM with the new features added, but not much technical information.

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Terry Phillips

 

When I ordered my OTO, there were none completed yet. We used, I believe, the old options list, which still had the HGT package (all 612s, OTO or not, from early 2008 on had the CC brakes).

My understanding was that the HGT package on the OTO had sport suspension, sport exhaust, and challenge wheels. I liked the stock wheels, didn't want an excessively loud car, and so was only interested in the suspension. This is why I didn't spec the HGT package on my car.

I looked in my files, but can only find the old options list, which is what we used, I think. I remember that we were entering the option codes into the computer, and there were some that my salesman didn't know what they were-- because he didn't have an updated options list.

 

And just FYI, the "Sporty Exhaust" is a real option and is NOT the same as the sport exhaust in the HGTC/S packages. They changed part of the pipes in the sporty exhaust, but not as much as in the sport exhaust.

 

WCH- I think Doug (champagne612) added the chrome rear grilles to his 2006 HGTS. A larger rear anti-roll bar has been included in V12 handling packages since the 550 Fiorano Handling Package was introduced in the 90s. Reduces understeer and is easy and relatively inexpensive to retrofit. Only requires the bar and a pair of larger bushings/buffers. We have had several owners add the larger bar to their Maranellos. Unfortunately I only have an early parts catalog. Hard to get the newer documentation since everything went on-line.

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Terry Phillips

 

WCH- In the OTO picture thread, there is a 2010 with the handling package that shows the double walled tailpipe and chrome grilles. Not sure when the package became available. There is another one just below it.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139386495&postcount=62

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139507565&postcount=68

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

i made the remark of hgt2 package which cost $13,210 on window sticker includes polished monolonic wheels , tubi exhaust with silver mesh and upgraded sport suspension

 

hgt1 package is tubi exhaust only

 

ceramic brakes are standard on all 612 oto 2008 and newer , not earlier 2008 non oto

 

on 612 oto the package was called either hgt1 which was about $5,000 tubi exhaust only or hgt2 for $13,210 polished 20 inch monoloc wheels, tubi exhaust with silver mesh and upgraded sport suspension

 

by the way factory tubi upgrade sound great and dont drown you out from enjoying the ride

 

I've seen this question about what come with the package on a few different threads, here is a document that answers the question:
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Terry is the man!

I did change the rear screens - I STRONGLY suggest this and DO NOT paint them.

The area carries an extreme amount of heat.

Screens were 550 and 125 for labor - best 675 bucks I ever spent!

 

Allen- That Ferrari document mixes a couple of things, because the CCM brakes became standard in about September 2007 for the OTO. So there is no reason for a stand alone CCM option except as a retrofit package for older 612s, similar to the the 599 HGTE retrofit packages for older 599s.

Most of it, though, does refer directly to the HGT2 package on the OTOs. Thanks for digging it up for us. Finding info on the OTO has been very difficult and the OTO owners manual has a lot of incorrect data left over from the original 612 OM published in 2003 (believe it or not), so is not too reliable a source except for how the controls work.

If you find out what they did to the engine to justify changing engine type from F133F to F133H, I would love to see that, too.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

The document Allen posted is not for the OTO, it's for the late non-OTO cars. The CC brakes note is the key.

 

that document makes no sense when it comes to the rims...every HGT2 ive seen has chrome challenge rims...i would love to see an HGT2 with the silver challenge rims