Hi all, Realized long time back that upper Airbox carbon cover got so hot even under normal driving conditions that affects a lot to performance as hotter air has lower density. As you can see in the attached pic, I wrapped outside lower Airbox that is capturing radiant heat coming from all engine bay: engine, gearbox, mufflers, etc with a dedicated gold based film that withstands high temperatures. Now not only upper Airbox’s temp has been massively reduced so I understand that engine is breathing fresher air at lower temp, but also prevents carbon fiber to develop the yellowish decoloration associated to heat exposure over the years. Also I’d like to remember to Speciale’s owners that the intake ducts that feed lower Airbox are thinner than standard equipment on Italias to loose some weight and that’s the reason they have a prone to be damaged allowing hot air from engine bay to enter on the intake, reducing performance as well. High performance duct recommended as well. Hope this helps. Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Thanks for your post. What was the name of the heat reflecting gold film you used and where did you get it from? Cheers!
https://www.thermotec.com/product/24k-heat-barrier-gold-heat-barrier-adhesive-thermo-tec Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Here you can see the high temperature air intake duct. No more hot air inside the engine. Moreover it has slightly bigger diameter than OEM, so even better. Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Did you say gold? Where do you live? (Just kidding). Well, I gotta think about this one a little. First, the tape will only help with radiant heat, which (if my science doesn’t fail me completely) is only a small percentage of the overall heat being generated in your engine compartment (the vast majority is conductive heat). Second, taking air from a cooler location (down lower in your engine compartment out of harms way) seems logical and should help. But you don’t want to inadvertently suck in too much road debris (sand, dirt, etc). Because you are going two things at once, it won’t be possible to tell the relative effect of each change. And upsizing the intake may or may not help, as the filter element is typically the controlling resistance, That’s why high flow filter manufacturers like K&N are in business. But a caveat here as well. Their filters may be higher flow at the expense of filtration effectiveness. In other words, you could be introducing more debris into the engine. Would have been interesting to monitor intake temperatures before and after. Harder to do particle counts in situ………
You are right with conductive heat but particularly in the Airbox case, a lot of radiant heat was coming from exhaust, etc. Moreover airbox is attached to the engine by rubber mounts that, in a way, isolate conductive heat. Anyways, you can feel the difference, top Airbox is way cooler than it used to be. As long as debris is concerned, well, as you say these relays more on the air filter capacity. Another way to reduce engine bay temp is to put sportier cats, OEM are like heating boilers. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
There's so many factors in play, and you don't know whether or not it makes power until you test it. I've done a fair bit of dyno testing over the years, and what I have found is that, as long as the air is pulled from the outside or other cool place, the temp of the intake components have next to no effect on power. The air moves so fast that is has almost no time to pick up heat from the inside boundary layer of the plumbing. I have done tests where the intake plumbing and intake was burning hot and next cooled to a freeze with dry ice. Even in very high hp applications over 1000 hp, it was less than 3-4 numbers. Now on the flipside, changing the intake design can have a radically different outcome. One thing which the brightest boffins in the automotive industry can agree upon, is the fact that Ferrari is probably the best and most advanced when it comes to intake designs. Ferrari not only uses a lot of flow data to create the shape of airboxes etc. they spend a ton of time getting the plenum volume right. Even changing to a different filter insert like a BMC or K&N can have a negative effect. Yes it increases flow, but it also increases the plenum volume as the physical mass is less. I've personally seen a stock 458 getting a BMC filter installed and lose power. The window one has to work within when it comes to the positive and negative effects of changing plenum volume is tiny to say the least. Lastly there's the possible negative effects of changing the path of the airflow. Adding a soft 90 degree bend in either an inlet tube or exhaust for that matter, can have a shockingly bad effect. I've seen as much as 30 numbers lost due to someone trying to place a filter in a cooler location, and all that changed was the bend. Even the actual length stayed unchanged. I think the heat shielding is a good thing from a longevity standpoint. However, I would not mess with the intake design. Personally I'd look into whether the exhaust manifolds could be wrapped. And then I would check and see if there's any part of the fuel delivery system that needs heat shielding. If one thinks hot air kills power, it is nothing compared to what hot fuel does. Sent from my SM-G930F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Good list of observations by @Il Co-Pilota. The cats are massive heat collectors. 200 Cell cats will improve your heat transfer out of the engine compartment.
Path of intake ducts is exactly same, just the material is different (much better to cope with high temp) and slightly bigger in diameter. Routing is smooth without bends, etc. OEM material quality is sooo poor that it’s frequent to find many holes all around allowing the engine to suck hot air from engine bay that is performance killer. Speciale owners, have a look as F utilized a súper thin material to save weight with flip side of fragility and zero capability to withstand high temp coming from radiant heat. Here you will find the material (red) I utilized: https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/revotec-flexible-ducting-hose-243484/ Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app