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HK Insurance on 458, excess at 10% car value

Discussion in 'Asia' started by calitalia, Oct 11, 2011.

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  1. calitalia

    calitalia Formula Junior

    Sep 29, 2009
    536
    Just bought my 458 Italia and discovered that my insurance policy makes for a 10% car value insured as deductible and excess. For first year, due to new for old, I see a reason to get comprehensive. However, can someone shed lights on if 10% car value is a normal practice? If so, it gives a lot of disincentive to buy 3rd party as you would only get money back for the 1st dollar post the 10% amount. Then again, it is scary not to get comprehensive as accidents are matters you can't foresee. My car is not on a loan so 3rd party is possible. Can owners enlighten?
     
  2. SFchallenge

    SFchallenge F1 World Champ

    Jun 28, 2004
    11,945
    Sgp, KL, HK & London
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    Jon Wijaya
    Hi Mate, not sure if I understood your problem but it is quite normal for insurance companies to add the first 10% as excess which means that they only cover you 90%.

    Happens to several other class of goods & businesses as well. They just want you to be careful with what you have & don't take it for granted.

    You can of course speak to the underwriter for 100% & reduce other excesses but they'll add the premium as well. I wouldn't reccommend 3rd party for such an expensive & fast car but if you like it, you can ask them to reduce the insured value which will drop your premium as well.
     
  3. pacacu

    pacacu Karting

    Aug 30, 2008
    174
    Hong Kong
    Do shop around as rates are competitive. do u have 60% NCB. If the car is a total write-off, even full comp would not pay u 100% of the value for the first year of ownership unless stated, HSBC /ZF would state such.

    Do ask for a few bids..
     
  4. calitalia

    calitalia Formula Junior

    Sep 29, 2009
    536
    I was asked to insure the full amount. On one hand, i do agree that 90% comp is what they will cover. e.g., if my car is worth 4.5 million, the excess is 450K HKD. that's a 10% deductible and excess which to me seems like a huge incentive to NOT GET COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE and self insure. Why? Cos 450K excess is not a small sum. Of course, no one knows when accident comes and if they do come it is when you least expect it. However, by exercising prudence, I am sure I would be more motivated to avoid moral hazard but in some ways, if I get hit, anything below 450K would have to be paid by myself. Now at a premium of 60K, I see little incentive to comprehensively insure the car. After all, 450K is considered to be a medium impact accident and most accidents may amount to less than half a mil and honestly, for anything going beyond a 1/2 mil, the car is considered seriously damaged and impacted and insurance will only cover the 1st dollar beyond 450K. Now to me, it's not a small amount. In doomsday scenario, you total the car, first year is new for old sans depreciation but for year two, all compensation will deduct depreciation so if the car is totaled, you only get back insured value minus depreciation.

    My point being, if deductible is in the range of 10% or 450K (in my case), it seems a bit high to me. Knock on wood, I have been careful and would not dare think about an accident of that scale but then again it is not unheard of if you have a serious side impact. It is however scary, to go uninsured except 3rd party on such a valuable car and precious car (to me). So at the end of the day, I think most will still do 10%. 10% is quite common from Chartis, QBE or ZURICH. Not many companies specialize in Ferraris and Chartis does Ferraris in HK and QBE as well. Lambo uses a different company but most would be in the 10% range.
     
  5. DM18

    DM18 F1 Rookie

    Apr 29, 2005
    4,725
    Hong Kong
    I only go for third party irrespective of value of the car. 450k pays for a lot of repairs. After 1 year, 510k pays for even more and so on. Basically self-insurance is a better deal. For me with lots of cars many of which I drive infrequently there is no point on third party as the benefits of self-insurance accrue much more quickly
     

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