Horrible Experience with Norwood Autocraft! Beware of Bob Norwood

That's the way i read it too. I'm also certain that the damage to reputation will cost them >$2,000 HOWEVER, according to PayPal, the Seller was in the right, at least in regard to the deposit and in accordance to PayPal's rules regarding deposits, which I am not fully aware of.

So here's a situation where the seller insisted that they were in the right and stuck to their guns regardless of what was said about them on social media. It also seems that it was no longer about the $2,000 once the damage to their reputation on Fchat started to gain momentum but instead, I think it was a carefully planned strategy on the sellers behalf to curtail further damage by allowing the only authority (PayPal) to decide on who had the right to the deposit. That decision will then be extrapolated as final judgement on the case. IOW, we have the law on one side and the kangaroo court on the other. Unfortunately for the seller, in the age of social media, it sometimes makes more sense to just take your licks and avoid further damage to your "percieved" reputation regardless of whether you're in the right or not.

Last note, if PayPal operates anything like Credit Card companies, then they will consider appeals after counter appeals until someone caves so this may not be PayPal's final decision.

 

I posted before reading this. Out of interest, do you think PayPal would seriously refund the both of you?

 

In small claims for $2,000.00

 

Wow.

Absolutely unbelievable. And the cheek to make a topic about it. If anyone still wanted to do business with these clowns they're surely all scared off now.

Business suicide. Well done. lol

 

Sorry to ask, but your profile says that you are the "mechanic of Bob Norwood". I am wondering if Bob Norwood is fully aware what you are doing of this forum ruining your company reputation ?

 

Sad to hear Paypal is now out $2000 dollars to Norwood, all because of a misrepresented car sale. I feel sorry for Paypal having to do that but Paypal is a company that wants to stick around and It costs them money to keep parties happy right or wrong. Paypal knows it's business survives based on their reputation and peoples confidence in them. Bad customer experiences and questionable practices can kill any business quick. Paypal went up a notch in my book, others, well...

 

You think so? IMO, PayPal could not give two ****s about the dispute in question neither do they refund both parties in an effort to "keep the peace" and especially volantarily take the hit on the buyers behalf as you have insinuated. It likely came down to one parties argument prevailing over the others. That simple.

 

Thread re-opened and merged for Norwood Autocraft (not Norwood Auto Italia) Part II.

 

Who took the hit? Buyer says Paypal gave him his 2k back. Guy from Norwood says they just got 2k. Buyer still has his 2k. Paypal just footed the bill for a BS car ad. What is confusing?

 

🐴🔫 the thread that won't die


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But I bet the subject business is on life support

 

"To forget one's purpose is the commonest form of stupidity."

 

This ^

PayPal found in favor of the OP in return deposit. For zippy to come back on here and suggest that PayPal called it a draw and then also paid Norwood $2000 to keep the peace is a fallacy.

 

There was only $2000 to begin with which the buyer paid Norwood as a deposit through PayPal. Norwood has the $2,000 (evidence through PayPal receipt image) and apparently, so does the the Buyer (http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144938045-post327.html). That makes $4,000. So where did the extra $2,000 come from?

 

That would be shocking! In a defibrillator sort of way.

 

Paypal unless one of the parties is lying.

 

OK, so now we're back to where we started

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144941037-post355.html

Do you really think PayPal would be $2,000 out of pocket? I highly doubt that. I think someone would need to pay PayPal back. So just for fun, let's anticipate the three scenarios as FINAL JUDGMENTS:

1. PayPal does indeed take the hit b/c they cannot make a decision or would rather not waste their time dealing with it - Good for them

2. PayPal retracts their refund from Norwood. I would expect a formal apology from Norwood to the OP.

3. PayPal retracts their refund from the OP. I would expect a formal apology from the OP to Norwood.

Why? Because it doesn't matter who we think is right or wrong in regard to the rules of deposits. PayPay likely have more experience and have settled more disputes than anyone around here including Norwood. Would I expect anyone to apologize? No because this thread has become more than just about the rules or the law for that matter. It has become very personal IMO.

 

What planet are you on? Paypal is not a law court, they provide a service. You actually think the OP should apologize to Norwood if Paypal did not refund him? Give your head a shake! The ad said original wheels, they were not, end of story, return deposit. It's called false advertising which might not be a big deal on your planet. Misrepresented wheels was a red flag that there could be other issues and I don't blame the buyer for getting cold feet. Norwood should have refunded the deposit, apologised and republished a correct ad and moved on, IMO. It's not right or wrong, it's called good business.

 

For serious
Most people would have quit digging the hole by now.


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This thread just keeps on giving and giving now that the "Experience…" thread has been merged into the "Horrible…" thread.