Horrible Experience with Norwood Autocraft! Beware of Bob Norwood

He said that he would only give us 80k grand text we had to head to third-party talk to him and he said he was only going to offer 70k anyway but he agreed to the 110k and sent the deposit

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...yet.

Was there an expiration on the deposit/agreement?

 

I already talked to PayPal. You have no case and we have legality of it in our favor

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This story gets curiouser and curiouser.

Buyer changes his mind and says give me my deposit back.

Seller says no way, you bought it.

Buyer either has to buy it or give up his deposit.

Seller sells the car to someone else.

What if buyer decides he doesn't want to lose his deposit, and wants the car?

And how exactly is this a "happy ending" for the guy who is out $2000?

 

And work with a mini said he didn't want the car anymore he said we were too far apart

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Wow...that pretty much seals it for me...not that I am looking to do business with your outfit...but if there was ever going to be a time in the future it just vanished.
I suspect the same for many readers of this.
Willing to bet you guys are now out more than $2000.

 

Norwood Auto Crafters never going to just vanish because it's been around for longer than you probably been alive. Mr. Norwood been working on Ferrari's for the last fifty years he's a well-respected member of the furry community in most of his business doesn't come from Ferrari chat it comes from other places and Word of Mouth

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Glad he is well-respected in his "furry community."

 

Willing to piss on your reputation on ferrari chat for $2k is a pretty poor business decision.

 

This.

X 2000

Sheesh...

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Just FYI... If you think it's "Just FerrariChat."
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Yup, thats all that matters.

I run a business that sells high end collectibles and we refund no matter if we are right or not.

$2k is not a lot of money.

 

Norwood Auto Crafters is never going to just vanish because it's been around for longer than you have probably been alive. Mr. Norwood has been working on Ferraris for the last fifty years. Bob Norwood is a well-respected member of the Ferrari community. Most of his business doesn't come from Ferrarichat.com, it comes from other places and Word of Mouth.

There, I cleaned it up a bit for you.

BTW, I was looking to do some business with you guys in the future, the tone of this post just sealed the deal for me. These days clicks on the internet equal word of mouth.

 

Word of Mouth... is that one of those other internet search engines?

 

I'm glad to hear this story has a happy ending for you. Unfortunately it sounds very one sided. In fact, the entire deal seems very one sided. Your misleading description, and your time that was waisted... Did you ever consider the perspective of your potential Buyer?

This Man learned that you were selling fake wheels and decided the car wasn't worth what you were asking. It likely made him question the rest of the car's authenticity? Do you really fault him for choosing not to waist any more of his time and money, by not coming to TX to view what he already learned was fake? Again your views are very one sided.

I recently came into a position where I will be able to purchase a nice Ferrari. As I researched this market online, the Norwood name came up several times. This thread was one of them. After hearing this story I couldn't help but share my feelings. I'm shocked you have been in business for so many years while acting like this. I will make the prediction that your days in the Ferrari World are numbered. Especially if you continue treating customers like this. It's amazing to me that you have admitted guilt yet retain this Man's deposit. And on top of this have the nerve to say this story has a happy ending... Amazing!!!

 

It isn't, but damn, it should be!

 

I AM SHOCKED ABOUT BOB NORWOOD-WHEN HE WAS IN DALLAS HE WAS THE VERY BEST FERRARI RESTORATOR IN THE WORLD-AND NOW AT THE END OF HIS CAREER HE IS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF AND LYING TO PEOPLE. I AM SADDENED BY THIS AND REALLY DISSAPOINTED IN SEEING THE UGULY TRUTH ABOUT THIS MAN.

 

So the wheels were misrepresented...a fact admitted to by the seller. Buyer doesn't go see the car. Seller claims buyer wasted his time by not coming to see the car. Buyer wants deposit back because car is not as represented. Seller refuses to give buyer back his deposit because he did not make a trip to see the car in order to determine that the car is not as represented.

Sorry...seller just outright stinks on this one. It does not matter one bit that buyer might be nit picky or be viewed as a PITA to some guy who's "been around forever". Give him his deposit back! It's the right thing to do. And...no matter what you do, would never do business with Norwood after hearing of this. It's atrocious. You are holding $2000 of someone else's hard earned money because you feel like your time was wasted. Think about it!

 

IT SADDENS ME TO HAVE TO POST THIS,THAT THE GREATEST FERRARI RESTORATIONIST BOB NORWOOD IS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF. WHEN HE WAS IN DALLAS HE WAS THE BEST-AND NOW AT THE END OF HIS CAREER HE IS LYING AND CHARGING INSANE AMOUNTS OF MONEY FOR THINGS TO BE NOT RIGHT. I AM VERY DISSAPOINTED AND I DO NOT WANT ANYONE ELSE TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS. HE IS SELLING CARS THAT ARE NOT THE REAL THING-IM SPEECHLESS.

 

Pretty snotty tone there, bigred. I doubt you know how long some of us have been around Ferraris (it was Paul Frame in Houston that liked "Furry's").

Again, not a lawyer, but if a deal does not consumate in TX, it requires return of deposit unless stated non-refundable best I can tell.
Not as represented in person or online doesn't seem to be substantively different.

I've bought a lot of cars, from a lot of dealers and "upstanding members of the Ferrari community". Several have tried to screw me, most recently earlier this year. I don't post threads on the web. I just talk to real buyer friends.

Lets see, Walker? Where did that big customer go??? GRAND PRIX, GRAND SCAM-GRAND JURY? ? D Magazine
Mel from San Antonio? Where is that customer again?? Where There Wasn't a Will, He Found a Way - NYTimes.com
Yeah, I think some of us have a fine idea what's what.
Enjoy that high Ferrari horsey.

 

I'm shocked he (Mr. Norwood) hasn't told you to knock it off here. I'm not sure which is worse: letting you spout off or not refunding the deposit. Both equally bad business decisions.