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How and how long do you warm your car up

Discussion in '360/430' started by saudio, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. saudio

    saudio Karting
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    before driving? On my f430 I usually let it idle 2-3 minutes, then drive gently and shift before 4K until the oil temperature starts to come up. After that no red lining until full oil temperature.

    The transmission also takes a while to warm up and shift smoothly (6 speed). It's stiff and notchy until it gets warmed up.
     
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  3. flash32

    flash32 Formula 3

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    Your are doing it perfectly.. start ..warmup for a short time ..then drive very gingerly until 5 10 miles and oil is about 170f ..

    Then you are good to go

    The time and mileage to warm will depend on outside temp

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  4. BAD430BENZ

    BAD430BENZ Formula Junior

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    Did you just purchase the car ?
     
  5. 3POINT8

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    i remember my F430 took about 15-20 minutes to warm up by shifting before 4rpm. the 458 takes about 5 minutes. not sure why the difference
     
  6. saudio

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    A few months ago. I've put about 500 miles on it with sporadic winter driving.
     
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  8. MaranelloDave

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    Start it up and then maintain 7000-8000 rpm for 5 minutes. Fastest way to warm up those fluids!



    (I'm kidding of course)
     
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  9. tmvatlanta

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    1-2 minutes


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  10. cpep

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    I usually start it and back it out of the garage. Then get out and do a walk around and inspect everything is good . That's about 5min of warm up time and then I roll out. Keep shifts down until oil temp is up as others have said.
     
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  11. Ianjoub

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    Dec 22, 2019
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    Start it and drive it, keep it under 4k until oil up to 150 or so.
     
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  13. efg2014

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    Sep 14, 2014
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    I use to warm up the car prior to driving it. Now I start and go however I keep the RPMs under 2k for about 5-10 min.
     
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  14. Penzinger

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    Not advisable for F1 cars. The clutch only closes completely at approx. 1900 rpm, so it is better to stay between 2200 and 3000 rpm.
     
  15. gatago

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    I start it and wait for all dash lights to go away (5 or six seconds) before I back out of garage. I keep it under 4k until at temp, which depends on outside temp. I only drive in above 35 deg because of summer tires.
     
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  16. Zed82

    Zed82 Formula Junior

    Sep 28, 2017
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    Just start and go like any other car. Keep it under 3-4k rpm and wait for the oil to warm up. I would never let it idle when cold. Surprised to see many Ferrari owners do that.
     
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  17. willfinch36

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    Same here, thought it was something to do with low oil pressure when idling.
     
  18. CarAholic

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    I used to do the exact same thing and still do it for all my other cars. The one shop that works on my car recommend letting it idle a couple minutes before driving off for the F1 system. Now while I was skeptical at first it does make a big difference. Shifting is a lot smoother once she’s warmed up a little.


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  19. KC360 FL

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    Start up and idle as little as possible. Out the driveway and start driving. No revs above 4K until oil temp reaches at least 170 degrees. On cool and colder days may take as long as 15 to 20 minutes to reach a "safe" temperature to drive spiritedly. F1 car FWIW.
     
  20. Hypek9

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    Usually let idle for 5 minutes before driving. Keep revs below 4K until oil temp is good, can take up to 15 minutes of driving.
     
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  21. becausephilchow

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    Let it cold start until the revs drop to normal, then drive. Usually around 30 seconds to 1 minute, and then I'll drive gingerly until the operating temps get up to normal. Shift under 3K, I have an F1.
     
  22. Zanny1

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    Lugging the motor, cold or hot, is not so good. I can't imagine keeping the revs under 2000 RPM when driving a cold motor.
     
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  23. VAF84

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    What's the issue with letting the car idle? If I know I'm headed out for my Sunday morning drive, I turn it on and let it sit while I go inside to do a few other things. Usually anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes at least. Mostly because I don't have a lot of time to drive it, and I have limited self control once I exit the garage :) .
     
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  24. Sky Hye

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    I’ll idle for a minute or two. For the rest I’ll drive about 5-10 minutes before really shredding my tires. The transmission will let you know based on how it shifts. That is if you’re in tune with your car
     
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  25. Danedingerson

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    Look in your exhaust for black soot which fills your engine on cold idle.
     
  26. EastMemphis

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    I'm lucky that I live at the top of a hill. After starting and cel out, I pop into reverse for a fraction of a second and let gravity do the rest. By the time I'm at the bottom of the hill, idle has dropped and ready to go. I recall the owners manual said something about under 3000 r's until 70c, which is what I do. Maybe it was Fonzie at J. Scuderia. After 70c, I let her rip.
     
  27. ColGraves

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    I was always told by pretty high-end mechanics that idling causes build up of unburnt fuel in the oil. Was told by a long time Ferrari mechanic to drive it gently, but not to idle it after starting. The unburnt fuel breaks down the oil (apparently). Also heard this with a Porsche Mechanic I used who I think pretty highly of. Of course, not sure if this applies to synthetic oils, but that is what I was told...


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  28. JohnnyTS

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    #25 JohnnyTS, Feb 27, 2020
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    how I understood it, it's the burned carbon and unburnt fuel laying on the valves when idling and switching off, the idling a bit for a few minutes is fine when going out on a drive and the fuel burns off properly but when you idle for example 2/5 or whatever minutes and just switch the car off it is very bad and will break down the oil quicker but this was opinions from car guys / engine mechanics.
     

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