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How does re-dyed interior affect resale value?

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  1. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    I found out recently that my Ferrari 328's interior is not cream, at least not when it left the factory. I took it in to get a price quote on re-covering the seats, and the advisor almost immediately said that the color was not original. He showed me several places where the original color -- tan -- was visible: at the back edge of the seat-bottom cushion (under the seatback), inside the console glovebox cover, inside the manual pouch on the back of the passenger seat, and inside an overlapping seam on the door panel.

    I got price quotes not only on re-covering the seats, but also on stripping the dye from the rest of the interior and restoring the car to its (apparently) original color. This obviously is a more expensive job than I had first anticipated.

    Which brings up the question: the advisor said that restoring the interior to the original color would increase the resale value of the car. The question is: how much?
     
  2. Erich

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    How much less did you pay because it had a non original interior color?
     
  3. Wade

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    If you recover the seats then they are no longer original. If you can refinish to original color then you'll see an increase in value/interest. But, at the same time, I doubt you'll get much of a ROI for one over the other.
     
  4. Gatorrari

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    I don't think that I did, because I don't think that the previous owner knew, or if he did, he didn't tell me. Cream was an acceptable color, so I didn't care at the time.
     
  5. irondogmike

    irondogmike F1 Rookie

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    why should you care now unless you think you're going to sell it now, which this is not the time to sell even if it was the o.e.m color,I don't think it makes that much difference in resale...but thats my take:)
     
  6. Bullfighter

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    #6 Bullfighter, May 22, 2009
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    If you care about concours, you will lose points for a re-dyed interior, and probably have a heavier deduction if there was a detectable color change. Even if the re-dye is supposed to be the original color, it never quite looks like the original.

    The cheap way to improve the interior is to re-dye it to the original color by disassembling all leather parts (take apart console, door panels, etc.) The leather will always look dyed, to the trained eye. But the average Joe, used car shopper or eBay newbie won't know.

    If you're a perfectionist, have your professional upholsterer order the proper leather (Reoriginals and GAHH have it; color code 3218 was beige) and thread and redo all leather bits at the same time - seats, console, seat belt covers, handbrake lever, etc. You will not get a proper match by doing the seats only.

    In terms of resale, I don't know. I spent about $5000 on mine, and after that the car started winning major FCA/FOC awards (prior to that it took second in a local FOC show) and getting a lot of attention. The car's not for sale, so I don't know how it affected resale, but a proper interior restoration to original colors should be worth a few thousand.

    Re-dye versus clean leather photo (original 3218 beige in protected area; Leatherique dye on the exposed seating surface):
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  7. hardtop

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    I think it depends on the rest of the car. If we are talking basic, honest driver quality, then I don't think it matters much. If it is low mile, otherwise pristine, then it would matter more. FWIW, cream was never popular in the US, so going back to tan would be more appealing regardless of value. A lot of classic cars of concours quality are not the original color but it doesn't seem to matter.

    Dave
     
  8. J. Salmon

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    It's also going to depend on the buyer. Some people might care, others not. If I had to ask (because it was done well) then I would not care, but I am not a concours guy. I would rather have it nicely done but not factory original color than original and in need of a redo. So to me it might be worth MORE now than it was before. I also prefer cream interiors, tan is a dime a dozen (including my own).

    You will also get people who will tell you it is worth less because they want to buy it for less, when it really doesn't matter to them, and when the car is not really a concours car for other reasons.

    If you are planning to sell, I think you will spend more than you will get back.
     
  9. dm_n_stuff

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    I don't think it makes a lick of difference if the job was done well.

    Did you notice the redye when you bought the car? Obviously not. So it didn't affect your decision making process, and you didn't beat the seller up over it.

    If you're getting the interior cleaned up, keep it in its current color and don't worry about it. If you want to disclose the color change from original, go for it, I don't think there's going to be a concern there.

    As to concours. There's no deduction on my score sheet for interior being non-original color. If the interior is worn, or the color is uneven ,then sure, we deduct for it, but redyed? Nah.

    Does your adviser have a vested interest in doing the work? Redying back to original the entire interior would certainly make for more money, which may be a motivator.

    DM
     
  10. Tony K

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    Most 3X8s have redyed interiors. Of those that don't, most are cracking and in poor condition. Re-dyed (or reupholstered) interiors are the norm; a nice, show-quality original interior is the exception.

    I wouldn't worry about it as long as it was done well. :)
     

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