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how important are upload speeds?

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  1. rob lay

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    I was on a 200M/200M up/down plan with Frontier FIOS. Real speeds through WiFi were 200M/65M. I upgraded to 1G/1G and now real speeds through WiFi are 700M/25M. Speed test directly with router not through WiFi is close to 1G/1G.

    My first question is how important are upload speeds? I hardly ever need to upload much, maybe a 500MB video now and then to YouTube. My second question using the same inside router and repeaters why with the bigger plan my upload would drop from 65M to 25M?

    Thanks!

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    Could be different plan speed. Mine tops out at that speed...they don't list upload speed anywhere.
     
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    Mine does. It was 200/200 before, now 1/1.
     
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    Ah right, you said that. Dunno. Reboot everything including router and extenders, try testing wifi next to router and I assume try switching channels and 2.5 GHz/5 GHz. Also wifi router might need firmware upgrade if able though last two I had did that by themselves. Might try complete upgrade of wifi router if old. Not all are created equal. My current one is brand new model Wifi 6 and blows. My last two would shazam packets through anything at full speed.
     
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    I think upload numbers are mostly ******** anyway. But only really important if you're doing a lot of video work. I think latency is more important, especially if you're a gamer.

    What's more interesting is three tests, 15 seconds apart, yield very different results, especially the upload speeds.

    mine is supposed to be 1G/1G We're supposed to be getting bumped to 2G/2G shortly. I have, on occasion seen speeds approaching 1700Mbps download.

    1st test is speedof.me which was recommended by the guys who installed my current equipment.

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  8. Innovativethinker

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    I think you have a router or wireless problem.

    Plug into the back of the router with an Ethernet cable and test from there.

    Do you have a bunch of cameras streaming to the cloud? Could be consuming the bandwidth.

    To answer your question, if you have a bunch of cameras, or if you are uploading large files (more than 500 meg) files all the time, or you use a VOIP phone service, upload speeds matter.
     
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    I hate you. :mad:

    Only because that speed is not available in my area. I pay $999 for 200x200 on commercial fiber.
     
  10. rob lay

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    Frontier gave me IP to test the direct speeds and it was 1/1.
     
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    Sorry, I missed that in your original post.

    Your new plan with the higher speed should yield faster up and download speeds, even across repeaters or mesh networks. First thing I would do is power cycle all the network devices and see if that helps. Second thing I would do is log onto each network device to be sure the firmware is up to date (many auto-update, some do not).

    Also check to be sure you are connecting on 5g, and not 2.4
     
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    This isn't your problem since your download speed is good but for every repeater that you connect through you lose 1/2 of your Wi-Fi throughput. I say Wi-Fi, not Internet because if your Internet connection is 100 Mbps but your Wi-Fi capacity is 1 Gbps you won't see the repeater loss.

    However, with really fast Internet connections you will experience the losses when sending / receiving data through the repeater.

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    For those that are curious as to why you lose 1/2 of your throughput with each repeater hop:

    A repeater's radio has to be on the same channel as the "root" (wired) access point. Especially with most consumer equipment, that same radio on the repeater serves the client devices (or another repeater).

    A radio can't transmit and receive data at the same time. So, when you are downloading (as an example) the root transmits a packet to the repeater, then the repeater retransmits that packet to your client device. The problem is, during that time, the repeater can't receive data from the root AP. You've now lost 50% of your throughput because the repeater's time is split between transmitting and receiving the same data packet.

    A logical solution would be to equip your repeaters with two radios, one to connect to the root and the other to serve your clients. There are some caveats to this so you don't really see this much. The introduction of 6 GHz to Wi-Fi will help with this problem.
     
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    How far you were from the router/ap when running test? Upload speed is very sensitive to signal strength especially since it drops so quickly on 5g.
    Your speeds looks great, unless you plan to host some file/web server or upload lots of content somewhere :)
     

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