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How many batteries have you gone through?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by open roads, Apr 10, 2011.

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  1. open roads

    open roads F1 Rookie

    Jan 28, 2007
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    I just got my 550 (the mother of all battery killers) out. Guess what? Got another one. It was on a tender too. But I've been so busy I haven't seen it in months. That's probably four batteries in six years.

    The Daytona got a couple before I got her on a tender and a regular routine of use. Call it four in seven or eight years.

    The 456, not so bad, probably because of more consistent use. Still, probably three in six years.

    The 360 is in Ferrari of Palm Beach. Among the things it needs... A battery. Probably three in three years there. I had lent this car to a friend and I don't think he used the tender.

    365GT4 2+2, One. I just got it in Nov.

    That's fifteen in eight years.

    Note to self... Drive them more. They like that, I like that, and the batteries last longer.

    So, how many have you done in and who's tops?
     
  2. CaptOharry

    CaptOharry Formula Junior

    Jan 4, 2009
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    What Brand Batteries are you buying?
     
  3. Kaivball

    Kaivball Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2007
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    You are losing a battery within a year and you're using a battery tender???

    That's strange.

    Kai
     
  4. open roads

    open roads F1 Rookie

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    The ones my mechanic puts in. I only want no maintenance, as filling water doesn't rank high.

    My pet peeve... Mechanics that don't punch out the dates or write on the darn things the date put in service.
     
  5. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Agree. You might want to try a different tender.

    I just replaced the battery in my Maserati. I don't drive it nearly enough. I tried all sorts of batteries but the best I think are Interstate. I used an Optima last and it was amongst the worst.
     
  6. open roads

    open roads F1 Rookie

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    Yes. This last one surprised me. I usually won't let a car sit for over thirty days. I usually get the shakes about then if I haven't run them.

    This one just got away from me. Though this battery is only a year old (replaced w/ major, in a year in which I had three majors done! Ow!) It may not be a maintenance free. It's hard to even see the thing. Not like I'm going to put water there. So if it's got a dry cell. Sheese!
     
  7. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2005
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    I have put 2 new batteries in my 348 over the last 6 yrs. :D:D

    I dont drive it often enough. :(:(
     
  8. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
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    Heat kills batteries. Florida is not kind in the heat department. Batteries that live in the engine bay die much mor rapidly than bateries that exist elsewhere in the chassis. Still, when I lived in Fla. I used to get 3-4 years from batteries. Now that I live in the just barely cooler Texas, I tend to get 5-6 years from batteries of aily drivers, and I got 5 years on my first Optima in the F355 and 4 on the second. But I drive mine at least once a week.

    Draining a battery all the way down accelerates the killing of the battery. You tend to loose 15% of store capacity every deap drain. So, if you are not going to drive the car for a week, you shold trickle charge it to keep it fresh.

    BUT make very sure you do not OVER-TRICKLE the battery, vent all the water, and ensure a rapid death of the otherwise long lived battery. Any trickle charging at higher than 13.2 V can (or will) boil off the water over time.
     
  9. open roads

    open roads F1 Rookie

    Jan 28, 2007
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    Cold is often the killer. Moderation is best. The climate controlled man cave was the best when I had it.

    Running them down is a definite no no. I wonder if something went wrong w the tender. I was so happy to see it indicating all was well. It wasn't. A nice unit too. I believe it is an Ecotech. I have several.

    The modern cars use the juice. The Daytona was without this rapid type of run down.

    The 550 could kill a battery in a week. A healthy battery could get hurt quickly.
     
  10. jznd

    jznd Formula Junior

    Oct 26, 2008
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    Open Roads - know how you're feeling. My 550 had an alternator failure last month, my mech replaced the alternator but figured the battery was still good, charged it up and sent the car back. Wrong...got the dreaded "Clickety click click" when I tried to start it up the next day. No problem, go to fire up the 430..."click click". And just last month my 360 got a new battery as well. None on tenders because I have no plug in my parking spaces.

    The 550 battery was about 3 years old, the 430 about 5 years old, and the 360 was about 4 years old. Not too bad considering the heat of Hong Kong, infrequent usage, and no tender being used. But all happening within a month was very annoying.
     
  11. Pepsi10

    Pepsi10 Formula Junior

    Nov 24, 2008
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    I had five tenders going this winter:
    Golf cart
    motorcyle 1
    motorcycle 2
    355
    SLK
    Only the DD Volvo was without.
    The SLK battery died once after I left a dome light was on, and the car has had battery issues ever since (probably an obscure relay I'm about to replace). So I'm careful with everything.

    It doesn't sound right that you would lose a battery with it on a tender. It should constantly keep the battery topped up.

    And if it seems inconvenient to keep your car on a tender, because of the connection, think about rigging one to go into your cig lighter. That's how my 355 is set up. It's worked great through two winters.
     
  12. The Red Baron

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    There is certainly a lot of different batteries out there.

    If you want it to last longer go for a gel type battery. Or spend more and get a marine type of battery.
     
  13. tcannon

    tcannon Formula 3

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    Did you use the red top or yellow top Optima? The red top is a good battery but does not have great deep cycling capability. I have had great luck with the yellow top Optima batteries. They are designed for excessive deep cycle charging without damage.
     
  14. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    Two years ago I replaced the battery in my 575 with an Interstate MTP 91. I keep it on a tender but, in winter I put a slow charge on it if I haven't driven in three weeks or so. No problems. In summer the tender keeps it up well.

    In all my other cars I service the terminals at least twice a year. I get well over six years out of those batteries. One died after twelve years.
     
  15. CaptOharry

    CaptOharry Formula Junior

    Jan 4, 2009
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    I have an Interstate in my 308,use Deltran Tender and no problems.The battery is 5 years old now.I made sure I got one that i can check the water level in it,and yes sometimes I need to add a little Distilled water to it.What I don't like about Maintanance Free batteries is that you cant check the levels in each Cell,put a Charger on a Battery low on Water/Acid you short out the cell/cells which in turn run down the Battery.Plus Battery's are not made as good as they used to be.And yes Heat is a Battery's biggest Enemy.
     
  16. LouB

    LouB Formula 3

    Apr 15, 2001
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    Dont you switch the battery off if you leave it for more than a few days? I do and never had a problem with my 328, 512TR, 575 360, or 430. I miss the battery switch on my 458.
     
  17. Street&Track

    Street&Track Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2003
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    Open Roads,

    You need to make sure that you are using a true fully automatic battery tender and not a manual trickle charger. Manual trickle chargers will boil your battery and kill them. If you use a quality fully automatic battery tender or battery maintainer then I have never heard of a battery going bad while using one.

    A buddy of mine thought all trickle chargers were battery tenders, so he hooked one up to his 456 and it only took a couple of weeks to first boil it and then kill it.

    Another thing to look at, for most batteries if they are taken all the way down to almost dead, battery maintainers are not the right way to charge them back up to full charge. Battery maintainers work best at keeping the charge up but not bringing them back from the dead:(


    As for using fully automatic Battery Maintainers/Tenders, I have both Deltran and C-Tek brands about 25 of them being used on everything from Motorcycles, ATVs, Snowmobiles, Go Karts, to Cars. I have not had a battery go bad in the last 10 years:)

    If you use them religiously and properly, they can keep your batteries going for many years.
     
  18. HH11

    HH11 F1 Rookie
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    2 batteries in 4 years. Both of them the factory Ferrari ones because the car is still under warranty. If I still have the car after the warranty, I will most likely get an Interstate, it seems to get the most votes.
     
  19. Street&Track

    Street&Track Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2003
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    I forgot to mention that the best battery as far as weight, power, size and longevity is the Odyssey AGM batteries. I have these on all my vehicles.

    They cost a bit more but weigh 30 to 40 percent less, are 30 to 40 percent more powerful are significantly smaller and last 10 to 12 years.

    I am just now switching over some of the vehicles to Lithium Ion starter batteries. Only because they are smaller, lighter still and very green in nature. Don't know how long they last yet but with an 80% weight savings they are just too tempting.
     
  20. open roads

    open roads F1 Rookie

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    C Tech. That's what it is. not an Echotech.

    They look like they know what is going on, with their different lights indicating status.

    Perhaps it failed. Or the battery may have been down when left hooked up. The only real "feel good" here is continuous use. Failing that, it's a crap shoot.

    When I had the man cave and was able to easily excersise everything, I didn't loose batteries. Loosing the cave meant loosing the system that worked well and was very rewarding.

    Other C Techs have worked very well. Still, regularity is best.
     
  21. Blown Z

    Blown Z Formula Junior

    Jun 22, 2006
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    Optima batteries were good until they got bought out a few years back. Bdelp is correct, Interstate batteries are the best out there IMHO, especially the MTP series.
     
  22. scorpion

    scorpion Formula Junior

    Jan 19, 2004
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    Kentucky
    Last fall I replaced my 308's 6 year old Interstate battery with the same. It was shot and wouldn't hold a charge anymore but still lasted 6 years. I usually plug in the tender one evening during the week just to keep the charge up. I probably should leave it plugged in all the time but don't trust it not to have a problem and burn up the car along with the garage. I can usually go at least couple of weeks before the charge drops to a point where the car won't start.
     

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