All this talk of registries for other models has made me curious. Who else has a GTBi? Me -- 1980 model year, #32957, black on black, built July 1980. Who else? Phrogs -- nice blue one? PittS2APilot (sp?) nice white over burgundy? Someone in Canada with a black on burgundy? Who has the mint red one for sale? Others??? - Tony
1980 GTBi, 20k miles. White with red interior. All origional except for badges and wheels 16". Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Awesome pics! And three GTB QVs!?! They must be incredibly rare in North America -- I am under the impression that the majority of "Bs" were sold in Europe, especially as the years progressed, and the U.S. bought mostly "S" models. (?) Regarding 'all original', I thought the rear roof spoiler started with the QV, and figured it had been added to mine. Or was it available earlier? Obligatory photo of my early 2Vi, #32957: Image Unavailable, Please Login
While by no means definitive nor authoritative, I've collected quite a bit of info concerning the serial numbers of the 1980 to 1982 2Vi cars (the "Rodney Dangerfields" of the 308 line ...) Here's the bit that I have about the USA versions of the GTBi: Year- -Letter- -First- -Last- -Total US Registered GTBi 1980- --A--- -31327---34261- -57 1981- --B--- -34531---37603- -44 1982- --C--- -37765---42081- -51- (total: 152 out of 494) This would therefore mean that (494 - 152) = 342 GTBi's were sold in markets other than the US. Take all of this with a proper grain of salt, of course. Cheers - DM P.S. - Anticipating someone asking, I'll just go ahead and post the GTSi info as I have it here as well: Year- -Letter- -First- -Last- -Total US Registered GTSi 1980- --A--- -31325-- -34495- -361 1981- --B--- -34533-- -37621- -400 1982- --C--- -37557---42389- -522- (total: 1283 out of 1749) P.P.S. - Tony, no 2Vi cars ever came with the roof spoiler as an option. Yours is a later QV model previous owner addition.
Wow, I just realized mine, # 34531, is the first '81 GTBi. Build date November 1980. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Great work...! I'd love to add to it. I count four others after 34261: 34291, 34343, 34345, and 34493. I also count at least 71 US model 1980 GTBi 308s. I count one other after 37603: 37627. I also count at least 50 1981 US model GTBi 308s. I also count at least 55 1982 US model GTBi 308s. I count at least three others before 31325: 30735, 31311 (owned by fellow FerrariChat member Meister), and 31323. I count at least 491 US model 1980 GTSi 308s. I count at least one more after 37621: 37967. I count at least 445 US model 1981 GTSi 308s. I count at least four others before 37557: 37327, 37329, 37331, and 37333. I count at least 579 US model 1982 GTSi 308s.
Many thanks for the additional input and updates! As noted, trying to document this sort of serial / year info can be a bit frustrating, as one soon encounters numbers for cars which fall outside of the normal patterns established for such as year of production. Further, even the factory itself is not a reliable source for this sort of info. An e-mail that I personally sent to Ferrari Customer Service several years ago brought forth their reply that there were a grand total of 29 of the 1980 A GTSis manufactured. Yet I myself have encountered and documented over 200 of the A GTSi models during my informal collection work, and your claim above that there were at least 491 of them in the US alone makes much more sense to me than the official factory only 29 claim. Upon further questioning, the factory has stuck by and has independently reconfirmed their only 29 1980 A car claim, so who are you going to believe? There are a couple of other curious bits that come out of the info in your post above. Looking at GTBis, you have indicated a total US production of (71 + 50 + 55) = 176 out of a total factory claim of 494 cars ( and again, this 494 number is a factory claim number, and might be suspect!). That would mean that only 35% of the total three year GTBi production run was made to USA spec and brought over to the States, which leaves 65% of them for all other world markets. So, this would mean that it would be more common to encounter a GTBi (instead of a GTSi) outside of the States. This seems reasonable, as GTBis here in the States do seem to be a bit hard to find. However, take a close look at the GTSi numbers. Per your numbers, there would be at least (491 + 445 + 579) = 1515 USA cars out of a total factory claim (perhaps questionable again?) of 1749 injected GTSi cars thats 87% of the total worlds GTSi production which were made to USA spec and which ended up in the States! That only leaves 234 GTSis (just 13% of the total production) for the rest of the world outside of the States can this be? The above data would make non-USA spec GTSi cars an extremely rare item! But perhaps this is legitimate, in that the factory would have continued to make carb cars for the rest of the world for a time, and only injected models for the States? However, I show 34501 as the final carb 2V 308, which would obviously make it a non-USA spec car. Point being that this number is very early in the three year 2Vi model run. Might I inquire as to your sources for the above numbers? Cheers - DM
I think it's a pretty safe assumption that the distribution of Bs vs. Ss has a higher ratio of S to B going to the States than elsewhere; "convertibles" in general have traditionally been more popular (i.e. sold better) in America than in many parts of Europe, due in large part to places such as California. In other words, I would expect America to have a higher ratio of S to B than Europe. Aren't the vast majority of QV Bs European models, with only a small percentage having come stateside? By the way, to both of you counting serial numbers, have you taken into account that a lot of the cars in the U.S. are gray market European versions? I realize that there is a digit in the VIN that reveals this (and I don't know which one), but we often tend to go by just the last five digits (serial number). (Sorry if this is a stupid question already accounted for in this thread.)
I have that black one in Canada, perhaps not the only one in Canada, but she is beautiful with 20K and 16" QV rims, original paint almost flawless, well ALMOST! Ciao, Dennis Image Unavailable, Please Login
Mine is a 1982 308 GTBi, s/n 39953, silver with red interior. No significant mods except for Hyper-Flow catalytic converters, which I love. I have added Scuderia shields, aluminum shift knob, and drilled aluminum pedals, and the intake plenum is red, like the QV; just looks better. Here are some photos of my own 308 in various scenic locations, as well as some cool cars from the Lafayette "Cars and Coffee" gathering, as well as Automezzi:http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk185/racedriver308/?albumview=slideshow Keep checking back, as I'll soon post the photos from today's Concours.
308 GTBi 1981 37079 (Euro) I have original wheels and tires, these are just for use. (Not my house) Here is question that I have not reach for conclusion, if enyone could help with this?: Right side electric mirror switch is located on centre consol how common is this? (which means both mirror are electrical and identical) It seems like, there where no other place put it, so it has to be there...
I don't think that switch is actually original. I know that it IS the correct switch for the electric mirror, but they were not fitted with passenger side mirrors from new, the US version that is. I AM really looking for a passenger side mirror to match the driver's original, but haven't located one yet! I don't want to fit a set of Vitalonis because I'm afraid that the footprint on the driver's door will be different, leaving some paint fading or different shade showing, like NO fading! WHERE can I find one? Thanks, Dennis
My mirror switch is located under the driver's door arm rest, near the latch. I don't have a passenger side mirror?
Yes, there is mirror switch under the driver's door arm rest. I have opened passenger side door, as I was also sceptic mirror being original, but it is. Actually no one have ever opened door interior peace before me. I have seen one other 308 car, that have same setup, switch in center consol, it was on sale Germany.
