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How old were you when you started?

Discussion in 'Tracking & Driver Education' started by Kyle13, Feb 9, 2009.

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  1. Kyle13

    Kyle13 Karting

    Jul 20, 2008
    178
    Bedford Hills, NY
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    Kyle Cullam
    Hey guys. My name is Kyle, I'm 17 and I've been racing for a little less than a year now down at our local kart track. I've seen A LOT of improvements in my driving without any on-track teaching. Now I'm able to hang with the best of the best at our track, including numerous guys who have raced elsewhere. I'm looking to go further with my racing, not on a pro-level, but pretty serious. My worry though, is that I'm starting too late in the game. For some of you serious racers, when did you start, where, and what did you bring to the track?
     
  2. wfo900

    wfo900 Formula Junior

    Aug 19, 2003
    530
    Annapolis
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    Rich C
    I started Karts when I was 11, but with all of the teaching opportunities now 17 is still young enough. I raced something virtually every weekend from April to October for 15 years.
     
  3. AlexO91

    AlexO91 F1 Rookie

    Sep 26, 2008
    2,909
    NW England
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    Alex
    I started when i was 7, stopped when i was 16 and now i'm looking to get a test drive in a Formula Renault sometime nearish Christmas of this year (which some of you know). I wouldn't worry about it being to late, Damon Hill became F1 World Champion in 1996 and he never eve raced a go-kart. So my advice would be stick in at karting race your socks off every race, and if worst comes to worst, then you only get a race licence and race know and again. Which is still a pretty good achievement to be honest and thats what i'm going to do if i get know further.
     
  4. Seth Thomas

    Seth Thomas Karting

    Jan 25, 2006
    246
    Atlanta, Ga
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    Seth Thomas
    Too late in life. Started when I was 21 and been working on it every since.
     
  5. ProCoach

    ProCoach F1 Veteran
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    Sep 15, 2004
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    Same here.
     
  6. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
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    started karting at about 6 every other weekend or so. never went to serious because of lack of funds...

    Got my first quad at 11 which I drove every day, mostly on tarmac though lol. Then moved to the caribbean where there werent any race tracks about (bar one stupid drag strip). Was there for just under 2 years and then moved to england where I got a new quad which I drove a lot too but it kept breaking. Grew out of porportions to even remotely consider racing full time so its just for entertaining me.

    I hope to just make enough money in life to fund my love for racing, probably something like the Dutch Supercar Challenge as its fairly inexpensive to do...
     
  7. ProRallyCodriver

    ProRallyCodriver Formula 3

    Oct 25, 2005
    1,250
    Alexandria, VA
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    Dave Shindle
    #7 ProRallyCodriver, Feb 17, 2009
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2009
    I picked up a kart last weekend for 2 of my nephews (guess they are 10 and 14 years old). Am taking them to karting school Saturday. They've grown up going to ProRallies, drifting, dragracing and roadracing events.

    My little one is only 3 but eats, drinks and poops racing. Every night he get his DVD player and watches either Herbie Fully Loaded, Disney's/Pixtel CARS, Speed Racer the movie or Speed Racer cartoon or Faster and Furiouser. Races his peddalcart and tricycle while imitating engine sounds complete with BOV sounds. Have taken him on the familycarts at the gocart track at the beach. He was waving 'bye, bye' to everyone we passed and laughing his diaper off.
     
  8. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
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    He sounds like my twin brothers, also 3. More often than not when they wake up and the TV is turned on, stuff that i watched in the evening is what they watch. Thing is, thats normally motorsTV or eurosport. If my mom turns the channel to cartoons they start crying because they want to see racing. :).
    They've got hundreds of toys but they only ever play with my toy cars which i played with when i was younger. Pretty funny:).
     
  9. mousecatcher

    mousecatcher Formula 3

    Dec 18, 2007
    2,116
    san mateo, ca
    not at all! you didn't read his post carefully.

    17 is plenty early enough.
     
  10. AnotherDunneDeal

    AnotherDunneDeal F1 Veteran

    Jun 2, 2003
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    James Dunne
    #10 AnotherDunneDeal, Feb 18, 2009
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    Did some karts early on for a few years when about 14. Got into drag racing when 17 and the karts went on the back burner. Many, many drag cars over the years. At 23 I began MXing seriously along with the drag cars. The mechanic who worked on my bike had been a former kart national champ. Raced MX until I kinda got myself hurt bad enough to have to retire from it.............10 days in hospital, three months rehab and off work for almost six months........Raced one more race (two motos) finishing 7th and 2nd. Could not get off the bike after the race and had to lean the bike against the side of the truck and have someone lift me off and sit me in a chair. Have not raced anymore competitively since then. Many years ago......

    And I did get the chance to work for FoH, Risi Competizione, FoDallas for a few years.....no, not a driver. I worked up front in sales.......
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  11. ProRallyCodriver

    ProRallyCodriver Formula 3

    Oct 25, 2005
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    $ > talent

    With $, you can afford seattime or matter how good or terrible a driver which leads to experience. Practice does make perfect to a degree. My advise: concentrate on studying hard to obtain a job that'll allow you to afford to race in the future.

    Wanna know how to make a small fortune racing?..........Start with a big fortune.
     
  12. ProCoach

    ProCoach F1 Veteran
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    James, REALLY cool pics! Thanks for posting.
     
  13. AnotherDunneDeal

    AnotherDunneDeal F1 Veteran

    Jun 2, 2003
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    I love this quote. Giuseppe Risi used to quote it to me......"You want to know how to end the season with $1M in road racing. Start the year with $2M and win........"
     
  14. AnotherDunneDeal

    AnotherDunneDeal F1 Veteran

    Jun 2, 2003
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    Peter, thanks,

    If you will look under motorcycles, boats I have a lot of photos there and also in the Texas section under Green Valley Raceway and vintage drag racing. It was a real passion when I could afford to do it. Unfortunately, now..............well, you know how it goes. I encourage anyone who has a desire to do it to go with it.......
     
  15. mousecatcher

    mousecatcher Formula 3

    Dec 18, 2007
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    san mateo, ca
    maybe he should try spec miata? :)
     
  16. AnotherDunneDeal

    AnotherDunneDeal F1 Veteran

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  17. mousecatcher

    mousecatcher Formula 3

    Dec 18, 2007
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    san mateo, ca
    it was a joke from another thread. sorry to interrupt. fantastic pictures though, i mean, wow.
     
  18. Anthony_Ferrari

    Anthony_Ferrari Formula 3

    Nov 3, 2003
    2,365
    Sheffield, UK
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    Anthony Currie
    Probably too late if he wants to be F1 world champion, but that is not his ambition. If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd start my racing 'career' and I'm 40. ;)
     
  19. Kram

    Kram Formula Junior

    Jul 3, 2004
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  20. Kyle13

    Kyle13 Karting

    Jul 20, 2008
    178
    Bedford Hills, NY
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    Kyle Cullam
    Wow guys, awesome stuff! Thanks a lot for the advice! I'm thinking of jumping into a Skip Barber 3 day school instead of going on senior spring break. A little bit more expensive, but in my opinion a lot more fun. This will allow me to go to the race weekends which are, you guessed it, either spec miatas or they have open wheel "formula cars." I'm leaning towards the latter right now.
     
  21. ProCoach

    ProCoach F1 Veteran
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    Good plan! It's worth every penny and you'll learn the right way the first time. The collective wisdom of the instructor corps is remarkable and in this day and age, the arrive and drive really makes sense. Have fun and tell us all about it afterwards!

    "You're never too old to have a second childhood..."
     
  22. Daryl

    Daryl Formula 3

    Nov 10, 2003
    1,035
    Barrington Hills, IL
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    Daryl Adams

    Kyle, my friend, that will be the best spring break you will ever have. I promise you. I cannot recommend Skip Barber highly enough. I did the 3 day course at Laguna Seca 5 years ago and loved it. I went back the following year to take the advanced course, and got my SCCA license. I started racing right away in Spec Ford, which is one of the most competitive of all SCCA classes, and got a top ten finish in the first race of my life. While I have not won (again, very tough competition) I have qualified on the front row twice (one pole). And as for the age deal, when I took that first Skip Barber course I was 55 years old! I only wish I could have started at your age. Have fun and LISTEN to what they teach you!!
     
  23. raptr

    raptr Karting

    Jan 22, 2007
    86
    Kyle,
    I was around high peformance automobiles from age 10 or so,but didn't start racing until age 26.I drove regularly for 10 years,at the amateur level and then moved into pro racing at the managerial level and worked in that feild for several years.The fact is,if you are really good as a driver,and have ONLY that goal in life,you will succeed at some level.It is probably too late for F1 and it may be too late for NASCAR,but there are "working" drivers(in pro road racing) right now that are old enough to be your father so don't worry about it.....keep your dream alive and pursue it.There are two undeniable realities which will help you with reagrd to pursuing this career.1)It will help you a great deal if you have alot of money.With money you will be able to "buy" or "rent" a driving position with an established team.That is exactly what established teams do,they sell driving positions to those that have the money.That is how they stay in business.If you can rent a ride for a season-or more- you will be able to showcase your talents.2)It will help a great deal if you are "always there",in other words,stick with it,be at as many events as you can afford,network with as many people as you can,try to become recognized around the paddock,get to know the right people.This way you might find yourself "at the right pl;ace at the right time".These connections might pay off some day.

    Good luck and don't concern yourself with others' preconceptions about what YOU want to do.Go for it.

    -raptr
     
  24. sainthoo

    sainthoo Formula 3
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    Jan 20, 2007
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    Christian
    I just completed the 3 day Skippy school in mid December thanks to Peter's (procoach) advice. I had high expectations going in. It exceeded my expectations and was an absolute blast.

    I did the spec Miata school, because I thought it would be easier for my dad who joined me. I am glad I chose that for 2 reasons: 1) antilock brakes and 2) easy to use gear box. When learning to drive I think there is an advantage to just learning car placement. Adding perfect touch with both feet simultaneously while scaring yourself at times is not particularly helpful IMHO. I am absolutely no expert, but I am glad I was not adding too much to soon.

    Best specific advice I got was- do not try to go too fast too soon, because speed will come naturally. Concentrate on putting the car where you want, so that you are driving it, not simply reacting to the car/ recovering. It is pretty tempting to "prove" you have a pair by going too fast too soon. I tried to live by that advice, and by the 3rd day I was moving at a pretty good clip.

    Christian
     

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