How to check my oil level (F430) ?

LOL! If you think that the old 300ZX was slow, then you should have seen the BBS's and DARPAnet back at 110 baud (roughly 110 bits per second).




What do you have for the Internet today, 3 megabytes per second, I'd think for most...

 

I have`nt seen ANY gas station selling leaded gas for over 25 years. Even if your not full of BS ( which I doubt ) the leaded nozzle would`nt fit in the unleaded fill pipe in the car. BTW how much per gallon is the leaded fuel???

 

See, why do you have to start **** by calling me out and saying I'm full of BS... I'll take a picture of the pump just for you, smart guy. And by the way, it's diesel pumps that are bigger so as not to be confused, I'm fairly sure leaded is the same size. I think it's like $5.99? In fact, I'm going to take a drive down there right now because I'm bored and I feel like making you feel silly.

 

If the fuel has lead in it, the nozzle is ( should be ) much to big to fit. I lived thru the transition from leaded to unleaded, so I know a little bit about it. Even if your right the pump should say " for off road use only ".

 

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I was mistaken... It's 110 octane.

I don't appreciate being called a liar, so please cease your disbelief. I don't come on here to impress/convince anyone with lies, if that were the case I wouldn't be 19 with a Nissan, I'd tell you how I was 21 with an F430. I didn't want to start any major argument by showing my side in this debate, and honestly betelgeuse, I don't know why you even decided to put your opinion in and try to damage my credibility.

Well, here are the points you made. I'm full of BS: You're obviously wrong. Leaded nozzle is much too big: Wrong again. How much per gallon? I was right with my guess of $5.99. You could've lived through the great war for all I care, you should still feel like an idiot.

 

It also says RACING FUEL and FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY, and the nozzle should not fit in a cat equipped car ( it`s the law ). However, you were right and I was wrong. As for feeling like an idiot.....I`m too old for that.

 

Haha, I should've guessed... I seem to be the only one under 30 on the forum. I apologize for my zealous overreaction to your post, but I don't appreciate when people don't give my word any credibility. If there's one thing to know, know that if I say I'm sure about something, it's true. I'll just say I don't know (or not speak at all) if that's not the case.

 

more fuel for the fire
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-AIR/2001/October/Day-31/a27378.htm

it's not the nozzle that was changed but a restrictor was added to the filler neck on cars. I had a grey market BMW I had to convert, had to machine up a new restrictor to pas DOT and EPA regs.

 

Haha, you had to do it didn't you... Couldn't let it die, noooo... I'm not touching this one anymore. My original point was reinforced more convincingly in my latter post, regarding the automatic transmission dipsticks. This point about leaded fuel is null, and frankly I'm quite sick of debating (although I'm belligerent, it always gets old at some point).

 

of course not it's fun...this time we can all grab some marshmallows...
http://www.arb.ca.gov/bluebook/bb04/HEA419605/HEA_41960_5.htm

let's see a nozzle change...
nozzle size http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/cfr/40CFR/P80_012.HTM

hole size..http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/cfr/40CFR/P80_014.HTM

 

Moot point in that leaded fuel is only being sold under an exemption for race cars and aircraft that expires in 2008: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley


But...I. History of Fuel Tank Filler Restrictor

Prior to 1996, 40 CFR 80.24(b) contained size specifications for
the gasoline tank filler inlet of motor vehicles equipped with an
emission control device that would be significantly impaired by the use
of leaded gasoline. The purpose of the tank filler inlet restriction
was to allow the insertion of an unleaded gasoline pump nozzle, but not
a leaded gasoline pump nozzle. Specifically, [sect]
80.24(b) required
that a manufacturer of motor vehicles ``equipped with an emission
control device which the Administrator has determined will be
significantly impaired by the use of leaded gasoline'' shall
``[m]anufacture such vehicle with each gasoline tank filler inlet
having a restriction which prevents the insertion of a nozzle with a
spout as described in [sect]
80.22(f)(1) and allows the insertion of a
nozzle with a spout as described in [sect]
80.22(f)(2).'' Section
80.22(f)(1) specified that ``[e]ach pump from which leaded gasoline is
introduced into motor vehicles shall be equipped with a nozzle spout
having a terminal end with an outside diameter of not less than 0.930
inch (2.363 centimeters).'' Section 80.22(f)(2) specified that ``[e]ach
pump from which unleaded gasoline is introduced into motor vehicles
shall be equipped with a nozzle spout which meets the following
specifications: (i) The outside diameter of the terminal end shall not
be greater than 0.840 inch (2.134 centimeters); (ii) * * *''
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-AIR/2002/May/Day-24/a12846.htm

 

Ah, that reminds me of something. Will leaded fuel kill your O2 sensors? (Not necessarily on a Ferrari, O2 sensors in general... I know some of them are shielded but most are not.)

 

Do you have a cite for this? I can't find anything on the expiration of the exemption.

 

Thank you smg2.

 

Yes, but it's buried in this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley

Go there and search for "2008" with your browser's Find command.

 

My manual shows this in one place warm up car may take more than 10 miles, till oil is stable on gauge leave it idling then place the oil dip stick plus cap on top not screwed in take a couple of stabs at it…might be foamy a bit….thats how my Porsches are done, check oil while running BUT screw the dipstick/cap into place to get reading once removed. Not the 430 it’s place the cap on the receiver

However, in another section of the 430 manual says to warm it up, and check oil with car running but.SCREW the dip stick and cap on then remove and check NO NO NO


My guys warm it up nice and toasty, then do the yank cap and dipstick wipe down then place the stick and cap on the flange NOT doing it with the cap tight etc…nope should be cap/stick on top of the receiver cap ….i have a ‘08 and both methods live in the book….

cap loose and sits on the flange is the correct way my car is approaching 44k miles and runs great (just did front end chain, idlers etc service and 44K service but asked for new plugs also…my notes book is down in the shop - I’d put the oil type up, I’ll get it in AM and put it up it’s great oil …..getting to be time to change it soon I may try Motul V/300…not sure because the oil my guy used is great sorry I dont have notes up here in house…cheers Pauroso

 

I believe I read that the ECU’s handle a max of 97 octane for ignition manipulation anything higher is a waste…stock F430F1 not a tweaked one..I can get Aggie gas at 97 local but it’s regular…tractor gas. (nice tho no smog testing) there are some incredible cars here (this week for the monthly gathering a guy shows up in an XKE with a McLaren engine in it…)…. I was going to and still may buy a barrel of VP gas….not until my header/catback changes are made tho.

 

DARPAnet….interesting DARPA and I have done biz. Side note, I was stationed in GUAM in 76 I bought one of the first 280Z’s made bought it to ship home, came with awesome music system…ha ha ha 8 track and AM radio …fly into Travis AFB after Guam my car was to be ready waiting etc for us upon arrival….nope some clown jumped the car blew a fusible link- but some mechanic with a heart stayed at the local dealer until my car showed on a truck, took him hour to fix then he tweaked the FI for more….spank..he picked up a few hundred bucks in gratitude funds - great car except in snow/ice….the wife took it off road west of the coors beer plant and ripped the rear end out on a logging road….i bought a 77 SAAB 99EMS…I figured she couldn’t break it..put jack Lawrence headers an exhaust and a fellow in El Paso then adjusted it for the breathing improvement…of course I used MSD’s on every thing I had up to when I started using MoTec direct ignition etc….the 28-z had nice lines (crappy looking bumpers)…

 

I tho stuck the Saab in a collapsed mine shaft, then in El Paso after stiff rain, I’m going to the missile site like I always did and all of a sudden found the SAAB didn’t float…gray weather, gray asphalt and 6. AM I ran in to an arroyo full of embarrassing water=- egress was via sunroof . ️

 

I live on an Aggie (cyber) island we can get the leased gas here…using a funnel with a big throat and modulation of the nozzle trigger but it’s regular so a half half mix with shell v-power

by NO means use AV gas_

 

Regarding stickers - "UNLEADED FUEL ONLY" stickers were required by the EPA and using leaded gas in vehicles produced after a certain date is federally illegal.

Overfilling your oil is kinda dumb, but not violating any federal laws that I am aware of, hence the lack of stickers on the oil cap...

To sum up: manufacturers really only like to put warning stickers on things when they are forced to.

 

Maybe I'm anal. but with any car and any fluid service I measure the amount of fluid that comes out....even if I was the last one to service it.

 

I skim everything in the recent posts section and seeing the words anal and fluid in the same sentence made me stop for a second.


Carry on.

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This was my 360’s intake … took the opportunity to do belts (and timed cams), plugs, coils (overkill), any all fluids. She runs awesome.

Unless I’m missing something, seems like once oil gets in there, it stays. So somewhere in 12k miles, the previous owner checked the oil with the car not running/cold.

By weight, took just over a quart out of there.