How to clone a black remote fob ....

If you've found a dealer that only charges $350 you should post the name to help people out. I've always heard quotes of $500.

 

I got mine thru Algar. Price seems to be rather inconsistent across dealers for PIN, FOB's and keys. To be honest, this is a huge hassle for dealers and they may not do it if you don't have a relationship with them.

 

Would be great to find a dealer or two that want this business. I've heard of some doing it for free (although impossible to replicate when I was trying to help someone) and others charging $500 or more. They probably don't want the headache especially when some numbers come back not matching the car.

 

Hi Eric, I'd like to send you my old broken key fob and one I have just purchased on eBay. Can you please send me your address and how much I need to pay please?

 

They really don't. The best thing that could happen to this entire system is for someone to develop a plug and play alarm/immobilizer elimination kit.

This isn't Europe. Ferraris almost never get stolen here.

 

I hope that something like this will be a reality in the foreseeable future. The immobilizer wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't such a headache for owners. I would rather take my chances with thieves! There is a hotrodding move afoot to daughter board 5.2 motronics. In that process someone might just bump into the immobilizer system and maybe exorcise that demon. We can only hope! In the meantime the service that gobble and eric355 has provided to the community are invaluable. Ferrari has been a poor solution.

 

Ferrari is always a poor solution

 

Hi Gobble,

My 360 only has 1 black fob. Can you clone one for me?

How to contact you, as I can't send PM here.

Thanks in advance.

John

 

John- Make a few more posts and you will get PM privileges. Has to be something that interests you here, if just an admiring comment about someone's new Ferrari.

 

He was able to get in touch with me.

 

Hi,
I am up to get a 550 Maranello. I will pick up the car next saturday after its revision from the previous owner. However, the car has only one black remote. I heard Eric355 is specialist in making clone from the orginial FOB. I am located in France so I would be interested if Eric355 enters directly in contact with me to discuss in private on the operation.
Thanks in advance for your support.

 

Eric- Looks like some IT genius figured out how to pull the PIN from the red fob or the immolilizer. Prices are very high, however.

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Prices are outrageous. I can't see paying anything really for a pin retrieval with the ability to simply clone.

 

Did you get a price quote from the? I am just curious as to what it was if you will.

Thank you

 

Their website says $1,050 to pull the pin from a remote and another $500 for an extra remote. The Ebay market is somewhere around $200-220 for a remote without programming.

 

A paste from their website. Has anyone heard of this before? ARe they talking about CAT ecu here?


Q. I have purchased an immobiliser, interface and matching fobs from a wreck and fitted it to my Ferrari 360 . When I press the remotes the doors unlock, but the car won't start.?

A: As an additional security feature, the immobiliser in the 360 and later Ferrari's is "mated" with one of the engine ECU's to prevent them being swapped from car to car, the vehicle simply won't start with an unrecognized immobiliser. You could swap the left and right engine ECU's in the hope that the other ECU is a "virgin" and has not been previously "mated" to an immobiliser. If that doesn't work, you'll need to purchase some new, "unmated" engine ECU's from Ferrari.

Fortunately the pin code retrieval service we provide

 

I didnt see that page , duh.

It looks like they will deduct the GST for overseas orders, 10%.

So for less than $1000 someone can get their original pin in their immobiliser. That isn't crazy IMO if you want your car to work as designed and Ferrari can't get it right for you.

 

But Ferrari will email it to you for $500.

 

I wish I knew how to do it because it probably takes all of 10 seconds once you read the data. And I'd charge people zero if they bought a fob from me.

 

Dave Rocks (355) just did that and it doesn't work. Something is screwed up in Ferrari records or maybe a pin change was done and not passed along. It seems as if at least in this instance it is not a a guarantee that it will work.

 

I would pay $500 to a dealer for the PIN on the condition that when the PIN comes back, the technician demonstrates to me that it works by manually starting the car w/o the FOB.

If not, no pay!

 

I just watched the videos on that site. Very well done and interesting.

I was not aware that the red fob can only transmit its pin into the immobiliser one time. AFter one learning sequence of red/black/black fob, you cannot repeat that with that pin in that red fob.

This is where cloning comes in as you don't need to buy a new pin and fobs. But if you don't know your pin you won't be able to start the car using the key sequence.

 

I just read their site in a little more detail. It's interesting they're in Canberra. I lived with a girl in NYC for 2 years and she knew I programmed remotes here and there. She was from Canberra! She told me on several occasions that I should start a website and turn it into a business but I don't have the time and there's really not much money to be made. We don't really speak any more but I wonder.... She had a classic Mercedes over there that was always in one shop or another.

It looks like they want you to unbolt the immobilizer from the car and ship it for pin retrieval? Isn't that a fairly big job?

 

No..it would take a few minutes only. You might have to drill out some rivits on the cage around it, but not a deal breaker.

Q. I have the pin code and original red "Master" remote but adding fobs doesn't work.

A: This is one of the real problems with the Ferrari immobiliser system. Once the pin in the red master fob has been transmitted to the immobiliser, the immobiliser will not recognise that pin again from the red master to initiate the programming sequence. The immobiliser will only recognise another (any other) pin sent from a red master to initiate the programming sequence. This is why Ferrari supply remote fobs as a set including a new master and pin, it's not possible to replace a missing fob unless you also have a new master and pin. ​