http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4609601413&fromMakeTrack=true just wondering if anyone has one of these or can compare/recommend one over this one . the price is right...!
It looks identically to the one I bought 7 years ago. Is it made in the USA? Find out who and where it's made. Safety is a big deal on lifts. These things are brutally heavy so you'll need help assembling it. Farm it out. It's cheaper than back surgery. Get the aluminum approach ramps. The casters are very usefull at times. Good luck. Bob S.
It looks like an almost exact copy of the Eagle lift I purchased about 6 years ago. Quality on the Eagle is quite good. I'd be careful about quality on this design rip-off. Can't remember if the auction said Made in USA; be careful parts aren't made in China!! This design concept is good for over under storage and SOME service tasks. If I had to do it again, I might think seriously about a fork-lift type design that allows easy access for removing wheels, doing suspension work, etc. Good luck Tom Elerding Daytona SN 16333
I'm assumming you have a 348 and you would be purchasing a lift to work on it. You probably already know this but the four post lifts won't work well doing an engine out service on 348/355 and they don't work well for doing wheel/brake work either. They are great for fluid changes and car storage. I'm not being critical of your choice just trying to help. Regards, Vern Edit: as I was typing I see that Tom, above post, already made my same comment. I guess it depends on what you are going to use it for but the fork style lift is what I use and for what I use it for that style works about the best
I have something similar and did a lot of work, including engine out, on my 308. The points raised above are all useful. Think carefully if you are going to use it to pull the engine in a "comes out from below" 348/355/TR mode. There's probably a way but you'll need to make sure the lift is laid out correctly in your garage to do this. I have had my car on the lift with all four wheels off using appropriate supports, so brakes, wheels, bearings etc can be done all at one time. My guess is you can move the car to and fro on the lift with the front end wheeled and the back end supported by 2 (wheel-type) floor jacks. If you are going to do a lot of engine work, a scissor type lift is probably better but is not a good storage tool and the arms have to be appropriate located so that people are not running into them, tripping on them etc. As I thought about the trade-off, I figured the 4-post type was a tradeoff I was willing to live with (and would make the same choice again incidentally). We have 9 1/2 or 10 feet of ceiling height. You'll want something similar if you plan on using the space beneath the lift when a car is on top. You may also need to think about the range of movement of the garage door (I limited mine on the up-travel by about 6 inches). Most are easily adjustable. I used a buddy (with a shop) to help with the install (he also had access to a fork lift for unloading). The components are heavy and I recommend either an installer or someone with the equipment to move it around. (we used forklift to put it on a trailer at his shop). Once it was in my driveway, we could move the pieces around with wheeled floor jacks. I bolted mine down with concrete anchors but I am not sure it is necessary. Make sure your floor is level and thick enough for the weight. Having the lift I can't imagine going back to work on a car lying on the floor (like many of you, BTDT). Heat and airtools make a big difference too. We have had the lift for 2 or 3 years. No performance issues. One other point: my wife hates it. She has wacked her Audi at least once on one of the posts when pulling out (we park a car underneath the lift). Nothing the body shop couldn't fix easily but recognize it can lead to extra strife on the domestic front too. Good luck. Philip
Regarding assembly: My lift was trucked to my door unassembled. Truck parked at street, about 100 feet from garage. With truck driver's help ($20), the lift was unpacked in the truck and taken out in pieces. Each heavy piece was placed on a furniture moving dolly and moved to the garage. No heavy equipment needed. I assembled the lift myself, with only occasional help from my wife. I got it with wheels, and moved it myself from one part of the garage to another when I needed to. No point here, except that with the Eagle, (7000 lb capacity) one person can assemble it and move it. If you have the bucks, getting someone else to do the job is fine, though! Tom
It looks identical to the one I have http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91968 2 posts vs. 4 posts. You will have to see what is most important to you. If the trucking company will unload the lift on the sidewalk, you can do most of the work (although the runners are fairly heavy). You will NOT, however, be able to unload it from the truck without a lift. It will take some time to unpack it and the truck driver will not want to wait that long.
I have found the midrise scissors lift with four fully adjustable pickup arms to be excellent for a midengine Ferrari. I have an 8 foot ceiling. It only raises the bottom of the car 4 feet, but this is more than enough to do any maintenance. I have used it to remove my Dino motor and perform other major maintenance including changing the oil on my Mercedes. It can be moved around in the garage since it does not require bolting in place. I have the Bend Pak MD-6XP. 6000 pounds capacity and weighs 1200 pounds. It cost 1500 delivered to the house. I rented a forklift to remove it off the truck. It took me less than 2 hours to assemble without any heavy lifting on my part. You have to remove it off the pallets, fill the reservoir with ATF, and connect the hydraulic line to the cylinders. It was manufactured in California when I ordered it and sent to me in 3 days. I did make a ramp since the Dino sits too low. I needed another 3/4 inch of clearance. This has been my best tool purchase to date. Bottom line: It depends on your garage and needs. If you have the taller garage and plan to park underneath it, then the midrise will not work. Richard Image Unavailable, Please Login
I have owned it for a year now and raised/lowered my Dino over 30 times. As long as it is somewhat centered, there is no problem. Since it is not bolted down, you do have to think about weight location. Centering the weight for the Dino is not a problem due to its mid engine design. I even have the wheel stop points marked on the wooden ramp to ensure centering each time I park it on the ramps. My input: If I had a taller and wider garage, then I would go for the two post with movable arms, but I don't. I bought based on my garage setup and needs. Even with a two post lift, you still have to consider weight centering or the car will fall off. I don't like the four post due to having to use supplemental jacks to take the wheels off. Too much work. It all depends on what your needs are. I have not needed the lift to its full extension for any maintenance. The mid engine cars have all their equipment at the far front or rear. I find around 30" to be the max for my needs and usually do any work less than that. Off topic: Shortly, I will be moving the lift to one side. I finished my engine rebuild, put 2000 miles on it in the past 3 months and do not have any major work in mind for the next 6 months. I took the Dino to LA for a week. It did great for a daily drive around. So far, 34000 miles on the odo. I purchased it with 31909 on the odo and did the engine rebuild upon delivery due to head coolant corrosion issues. It was parked too long. Richard
Great looking Dino Richard..more pics if you have time....thanks for the info andpics onthe lift...I amthinking of the same for my maintence and thoguht the 4 post was overkill and really require 12' of height from what I researched (esp. with overhead door.) your input helped a lot with my scissors lift concerns...is your 220V or 110 v?
The MD-6XP operates on 110v. It also has 5 mechanical stops. I included a photo of the underside of the Dino while I was replacing the muffler. It was easily done by myself. The other photo of the Dino as the sun was setting on it and while attending a small Ferrari breakfast get together. Well I am off to help my Daytona friend get his car together after a suspension rebuild. Richard Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I like your ferrari, it is beautiful. I am thinking to get MD-6xp too, but i have 550 maranello, the distance between to lift posts are 63 inches. the pad for the lift is 53 inches long, how it will fit on it. you mentioned you have adjestable pick up arms are they extendale arms so you can extend it to any direction you want. I am thinking your lift do not give you the ability of working under the car in the middle area like on the cluch on front engines. Would you kindly take a picture of the lift from top with extended arms so I can see better, I would appreciate. Thanks again L Der Sarkissian
I think you're right about the unload part but my installers (2) managed to get it off the truck without the lift. It scared the hell out of me and I can't imagine trying to do that with myself and the driver. At the time I got mine the Eagle lifts were all made by Gemini out of Texas but they came with one extra feature, an increased price. Shop around. Installation was $350 - $500. There's one piece of those typical 4 post lifts that weighs something like 1,300-1,400 lbs. I think it's the ramp with the cylinder on it. I value my body at more than that. Others may not Bob S.
I just wanted to publicly thank Richard, Im2504me, for his help. I'm the "daytona friend" he references above. He came over to my house the day after Christmas and worked hard for 7 hours on my car. Kick-started me into the suspension rebuild. Came over and worked another 5 hours on Thursday of the same week. Anyone who would do that, is both a good friend and a car nut for sure. That's me and my Daytona in the picture in his post. Thanks Richard!! Tom Elerding Daytona S/N 16333
Tom.........I also have a Eagle SS7000 which sounds similar to what you have (and love it!!). The total system is about 1500lbs, and the ramp side with the lift cylinder is 4 person shatch-and-lift to be safe. (or two no-neck weight lifters). I put mine together in about 5hours I'd say max. (but I had to remove from the truck myself with some help from friends. Thank god the sun was shining and it was about 95degrees out...........not)
First, I don't think the midrise lift would be ideal for a front engine Ferrari. There would be some problems with the center area and the driveshaft or exhaust clearing. I have attached some photos. Second, Tom thanks for the kudos. I look forward to another session next Monday. I will bring the diode for the starter solenoid. We'll do the valve adjustment whenever you are ready. Richard Dino #03510 Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
