Hulk Hogan's son crashes again ???

his passenger was an accomplice not a victim.

When I was younger I knowingly went on some dangerous rides with a friend(s) and if we had an accident I would not have been a victim because I went into it knowing full well the possible outcome.

Thats not to demean the tragedy of it, but its not like Nick hit a pedestrian that had no part in their antics.

The law will disagree with me but the law isnt perfect. Common sense should sometimes prevail.

One of the biggest problems in society is the lack of personal responsibilty

 

I completely agree. Where we differ is on who is responsible for this tragedy.

If the two of them decided to go out and find a street race, I would agree that the passenger assumed responsibility for his own well-being. If Nick decided to have a quick run on his own once they were out and about, responsibility falls squarely on his shoulders.

 

I think you are wrong on this view.

Last week a car lost control and three young girls were killed. The driver was 18 and drunk, the three girls were between 15 and 17 and went out with the driver for a ride. He is being charged with 3 x vehicular homicide/manslaughter or whatever the charge is. I think that is a correct charge.

I also think Nick being charged with something similar is correct. The driver controls the car. In an at-fault accident when negligent operation led to the crash, the driver is accountable and thats the way it should be. Just like for the drunk teen who killed those three girls.

 

You have to wonder what is going on behind the scenes. I would think anyone else would already have some heavy charges against him.

 

They may still be investigating as to who the other car's (the Viper's) driver was, or sadly waiting to see how badly the victim is injured.

Like the example of the three girls, it was also a case of two cars racing. I would suppose that both will get charged regardless of who hit the girs car first or hardest.

I hate to say it like this, but I also fault the whole "Hogan" schtick for this mess, too. Just like the mom that bought her kid an assault rifle among about 2 dozen other guns and some pineapply grenades - she got charged as well as the would-be shooter.

 

Where we disagree is Im amaking the assumption the passenger knew full well that Nick was going to be driving like a maniac and you guys are making the assumption the passenger didnt realize he was risking his life when he got in the car.

We're all making assumptions.

I guess at this point we agree to disagree as none of us can prove our assumption to be fact.

 

It is always noble to finish the race

 

Nice line - I like that.

 

The jury will have to decide what the Marine did or didn't know or do or didn't do, but Nick has a boat load of stupid stunts in his past that clearly indicates that he is a punk.

Jury awards to the plaintiff.

 

Young, dumb and full of c.. Not a personal judgment on him, all guys go through that phase. The problem it appears to me anyway is that his parents in their attempt to give him the best life possible ended up raising a punk with no concept of reality, (unfortunately common in wealthy families). Also, who in the world gives a 17yr old kid a 750bhp car? While there may be 17yr old kids out there who could handle it, do you think one with several speeding tickets at 100mph+ could handle it? Cant exactly pin all the blame on any one person. Personally I hope he at least gets his license revoked for ten years, several thousand hours of community service and some jail time. But maybe im out of line there.

 

Thanks, it is always nice to see it when it happens.

 

The "legging it out" on the track or the squabbling?

 

The legging it out when most would rather give up. Like when someone who has not shot at winning a marathon sucks it up to cross the finish line.

 

Thought so. Like a purple ribbon winner who actually deserves recognition for coming in a near last position.

I like the way Michael Schumacher ran over the field in his last race even though early on he had a tire cut down and did a full lap in 2nd and 3rd gear. He made about a dozen passes after the tire failure.

 

Well, can't compete there your intraweb skills, they are far beyond me. 12 boards though huh? I don't think i've even joined that many, EVER. Lets see, there's f1tech, fchat, vwvortex, samba. Of those four boards f1 and fchat are the only two "regulars". I like how a simple comment was taking way out of context and it turns into how many car's, message boards, etc. i've come in contact with. Way to go champ, you get an A+ for what would see as time well wasted on the internet.

 

Finding out what a loser I was dealing with was worth it and it only took 15 minutes from start to finish. I hope you find all of those cars and bikes and trucks that you want.

 

I agree, a passenger has the choice whether they trust the driver or not. I'd imagine any of Nick's friends knew how he drove. I quit riding with my brother for similar driving. When he wrecked, I wasn't in his car thats for sure. The first time you ride with someone, you never know how they will drive. I always take it easy with passengers, and never let them push me into driving like I would solo, unless they are an adult, I know they are right with Jesus, their parents won't kill me etc...

 

The funny thing is- where he wrecked.... if you've been to Clearwater, its 35mph straight road with tourist, old people, and herds of zombies from the church of scientology, all clogging the streets and getting in the way.

Racing downtown or on the way to the beach in Clearwater is like racing a 750hp car in a mall parking lot on the Saturday before Christmas.

Its just about impossable to be this stupid

Now if you want to race in Clearwater....might I recomend the road out by SilverDollar Trap & Golf Club.... now that's a road worthy of F1, and since its 50 miles from the beach (main tourist attraction) there's not a person or another car for miles.

But not DOWNTOWN at THE BEACH


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Crash report released today in Clearwater - (story lead the 5:00 news)

Reporter said...

- cloudy day, road was wet, 40mph zone
- speeding, hit curb
- 180 degree spin, across opposing traffic lanes, jumped center median in reverse, and hit palm tree
- John thrown from the car

Charges still not filed, by police

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Yup. Last year in Houston a underage girl was drunk and slammed into the back of a semi truck on the side of the freeway. Her boyfriend was the passenger and he got killed. She just got conviced of manslaughter and got 6 months in prison. She was the daughter of a Houston criminal judge also.

I see no reason why Nick should get off with no charges.

 

Didn't they say they had to cut John out of the car? Now they say he was thrown from it?

 

Yep... I wondered about that also. Report I got last night was from the local nightly news....so I just wrote down quickly what the reporter said.

I saw the report again this morning on another channel and it just mentioned that Nick was wearing seatbelt and John was not.

They said it was a summary report and still holding back greater details (speed at time of accident? They just said he was speeding but not how fast)...and the cops are still waiting for blood test and toxoicology test (Drugs?)

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Hmmm....who knows what the truth is, even when they make the final claims.

 

So he could have been doing 41 in a 40? How do they know he was speeding? Were there skid marks? Did the witnesses have radar guns??

 

If you look at how bad the car is, you know there is a possible factor of either speeding or reckless driving, and I bet if the witnesses saw other cars going 40 and another not, its real easy to see if someone is either speeding or not, I'm not saying its easy to spot 41 in a 40, but more like 60 in a 40. I dont know if I am making sense, but there is an either/or chance of speeding.