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Hungary prediction thread ***possible spoilers***

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  1. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Happy Speedcore?

    Looks like it'll be dry. Friday 60% rain (no change) and 30c. Saturday 32c and 0% of rain, sunday same with 10% chance.

    Qual:
    1: Kimi
    2: Vettel
    3: Grosjean

    Race:
    1: Kimi
    2: Grosjean
    3: Vettel

    4: Hamilton
    5: Alonso
    6: Schumacher
     
  2. JeremyJon

    JeremyJon F1 Veteran

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    i don't know if kimi will get there, the lotus isn't front of the pack "quite" yet ....he's a definite wild card though IMO for a podium

    hami & vettel will be hungry to win in hungary ( :D ) and the mclarens show they have pace

    the mercs don't have pace, but despite problems, the RBs, both vettel & webber could be strong

    and of course alonso will be running up in the front pack too


    mine:

    quali
    1. vettel
    2. hamilton
    3. alonso or kimi

    race
    1. alonso
    2. vettel
    3. hamilton or webber
     
  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    The lotus seems to prefer hotter temperatures (as was definitely evident in Bahrain, Kimi having started 11th after a miscalculating in Q2...) Had he started in the top 10 I'm sure he would've won! :)
     
  4. JeremyJon

    JeremyJon F1 Veteran

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    he was moving up through the field really well there, kimi has skill, no doubt ...i don't know if hungary track temps will be super hot, but it is late july! we'll see :)
     
  5. Bas

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  6. Ferraripilot

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    Red Bull win here. This track is very 'streety' in that it's nothing like Silverstone which is obviously very high speed. Cars with good mechanical traction will shine here if they get the tires right.


    Q
    Vettel
    Hamilton
    Schumacher

    R
    Vettel
    Webber
    Hamilton
    Alonso
    Raikkonen
    Schumacher
    Button
     
  7. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    No idea how much it will affect them, but the FIA is about to issue a famous Charlie clarification regarding RBR's "trick " engine map.

    No idea on what, if any, impact this may have on, eg, "wet" maps - I'm pretty sure they all dial the torque back in the wet - Could be fun!.....

    Cheers,
    Ian
    The full story; http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101476
     
  8. tifosi12

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    1 Seb
    2 Fred
    3 Kimi
     
  9. Ferraripilot

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    What Red Bull are doing is essentially retarding the ignition timing an unknown amount in the mid range thus forcing the throttles to be open more thus bringing more air through the engine which makes additional heat in the engine to burn the fuel in the cylinder (they can't change the fuel map I don't think....). The engine probably runs a bit hotter with this arrangement. This additional air obviously aids their blown diffuser and I would say this is probably worth a couple tenths and a truckload of stability out of lower and medium speed corners.

    I set up old carbureted Ferrari's in this configuration to get them to pass emissions in certain states. They run super hot, but that exhaust sure is pumping out a ton more air, and it's cleaner.
     
  10. joker57676

    joker57676 Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Quali:
    1) Vettel
    2) MSC
    3) Webber

    Race:
    1) Vettel
    2) Alonso
    3) Webber


    Mark

    PS: I also predict boredom. Lots.
     
  11. texasmr2

    texasmr2 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Schumacher at the top of the podium.
     
  12. ReinD

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    2009

    1 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 70 1:38:23.876 4 10
    2 4 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 70 +11.5 secs 7 8
    3 14 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 70 +16.8 secs 3 6
    4 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 70 +26.9 secs 5 5
    5 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 70 +34.3 secs 6 4

    2010

    1 6 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 70 1:41:05.571 2 25
    2 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 70 +17.8 secs 3 18
    3 5 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 70 +19.2 secs 1 15
    4 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 70 +27.4 secs 4 12
    5 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 70 +73.1 secs 7 10

    2011

    1 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 70 1:46:42.337 3 25
    2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 70 +3.5 secs 1 18
    3 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 70 +19.8 secs 5 15
    4 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 70 +48.3 secs 2 12
    5 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 70 +49.7 secs 6 10
     
  13. TifosiUSA

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    Judging by Benz's recent form that's pretty bold.
     
  14. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Swap Button with Ham and that's my pick for 2012.
     
  15. DF1

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    Hot track....
    Q 3
    Mclaren
    Red Bull
    Lotus

    Race - tire management
    Mclaren
    Lotus
    Ferrari
     
  16. schumacherf2006

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    Q

    Pole: Vettel
    P2: Hambone
    P3: Fernando
    P4: Webber
    P5: Kimi


    Race:
    P1: Vettel
    P2: Fernando
    P3: Kimi
    P4: Hambone
    P5: Webber

    Notes: Massa P7
     
  17. TifosiUSA

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    Quali:

    1.) HAM
    2.) VET
    3.) WEB

    Race:

    1.) HAM
    2.) RAI
    3.) VET
     
  18. ARTNNYC

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    Grosjean
    Hamilton
    Alonso
     
  19. Aircon

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    I see a few of you predicting MS in various positions, but very little about Nico. Why? Has he fallen out of favour?
     
  20. DF1

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    Bad hair! :)
     
  21. Aircon

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    lol
     
  22. SPEEDCORE

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    Ban for not understanding how spoiler tags work!
     
  23. Tokyo Drftr

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    i like seasonal charts)))
     
  24. Sellnit

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    A point was made last weekend during the race that maybe RBR did not run their optimal engine map during the race for fear of being challenged after the fact. This may have led to what appeared to be a loose rear end on Seb's car through most of the race. Surely if this was the case they will have their hands full this weekend so I say:

    Quali:

    Button
    Ham
    Fred

    Race:

    Ham
    Fred
    Kimi
     
  25. texasmr2

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