You mean the car I can easily buy for a mere 3 million - I'm sure that's really relevant to the average super car buyer any ways they have 4RM why not have it in all cars ?? Maybe every model should be offered in two flavours RWD or AWD Let the consumer decide just like Porsche does it on the 911's for the past 30 years
I mean the car that has 1000 HP and doesn't need 4WD. Price has nothing to do with it. Ferrari have said that the 4RM is intended for adverse conditions; that's why it doesn't equip their sportscars, which are about performance.
Mark my words... The government will tax and fine anyone who buys or owns multi cylinder gas powered cars in the future. They will make it so undesirable from a tax view point that it will kill the category. It is already happening.
I don't think that the number of cylinders will have anything to do with it. Displacement on the other hand, yes! It's already happening in many countries. These cars are meant for the wealthy though, and they will still buy them should they fancy them.
FerrariMarchionne: "The electric will come after 2022" It will still be a long wait to see a fully electric Ferrari , but now there are the first indications on the timing for the landing of a model until recently completely excluded from the future of the Maranello House. The zero emission Red will arrive on the market after 2022. Still long times . The clarification came from the number one Sergio Marchionne, during the shareholders' meeting of the Cavallino, which was held, like that of the FCA group , in Amsterdam. "There will not be a fully electric car before 2022," the manager revealed. At the Geneva Motor Show, Marchionne had been more vague, linking the electric argument to the hybridisation of powertrains. "The hybrid Ferrari", he had declared to Quattroruote on that occasion, "opens the road to the pure electric, it will arrive, but for now we are talking about a time horizon still very far". Investments consisting of the electric . Ferrari, which in any case already has a range of hybrid vehicles such as LaFerrari or FXX K, is planning to invest heavily in the electrification of its models. Marchionne confirmed the targets for 2018, including investments for 550 million euros, mainly in support of hybrid technologies. Furthermore, deliveries are slightly higher than 9 thousand cars, revenues of 3.4 billion euros, an adjusted EBITDA of 1.1 billion euros and a net industrial debt of less than 400 million euros. Gradual increase in production. The policy of increasing production has also been confirmed, but always with a view to safeguarding the exclusivity of the brand. "If the market conditions are the right ones, we consider increasing the volume of production gradually and organically over the next few years", Marchionne said. "We remain committed to preserving the exclusivity of the Ferrari brand and confirm Enzo Ferrari's motto of producing a car that is less than what the market demands, and we believe that demand is robust and growing and we will seize opportunities". main article: https://www.quattroruote.it/news/industria-finanza/2018/04/13/ferrari_marchionne_l_elettrica_arrivera_dopo_il_2022.html
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/24/lamborghini-aventador-huracan-phev-plug-in-hybrid/ Lambo going Hybrid as well
Makes you wonder if Ferrari really needed to go turbo. Seems like Lamborghini will have no problem keeping NA for the next 5-10 years still.
Turbochargers are a rational solution with the current technology state-of-the-art, that's why Porsche followed the same path. For the time being hybrid is pushed by political reasons, although with all the efforts and research it will most probably become an efficient solution in a near future. For the ICE part, moving to turbochargers is the same as moving from carburettors to fuel injection - as much as one can love the mechanical magic of carburettors, there is no way back.
Not really. Ferrari's current "normal production" platform does not support a hybrid system. Thus, a hybrid would be out of the question for these cars. A larger N/A V8, or a V10, would have the power, but wouldn't accomplish the CO2 reduction that was required. Turbocharging was the only viable option.
I agree. Turbocharging is the less bad solution to achieve more power and torque out of Ferrari V8 engines as well as meeting the emissions regulations. On Ferrari V12's the story is another and turbocharging isn't needed, is a blasphemy and that's for very obvious reasons. The evident future solution for Ferrari V12 engines, in order to have at least more 150 cv than the current 800 cv, increase even more acceleration and meet the emissions values, is the ICE in a hybrid platform.
Sad situation is that Ferrari have No rear mid engine NA cars meantime both Lambo and Porsche got some very good and tempting offerings It gonna be very interesting to see how Lambo overcome the weight issue of NA hybrids The cars will be heavier but by how much ??
It's odd Ferrari did not employ cylinder deactivation to reduce fuel consumption, hence reduce emissions. Cylinder deactivation works very well when you drive at posted speed limits, which is what happens if you commute; and does not affect the performance of the engine when you go on the throttle. It would have achieved much lower emissions for CAFE testing. I imagine it can also be easily controlled by software and works better on engines with more cylinders. I have it on my 5.7L Hemi and it's seamless. IMO, it's better than turbo because it imposes no performance hit when you are on the throttle whereas turbos kill the sound, introduces high-attrition expensive wear-tear components.
Ferrari could have kept using the NA V8 if they really wanted to. They decided it would be better to chase tax brackets with the 3.9999999 liter turbo.
The actual technical situation is that turbocharging is the most efficient solution to produce more power (and with no turbo lag, there is no drawback anymore); it would be easy to get as much power from a larger capacity engine but that would come with a weight penalty. The V12 is actually in the same situation since there is no benefit anymore to reduce the unitary capacity of the cylinders - it will probably be preserved for historical rasons but regarding efficiency it does not make sense. The hybrid is currently only pushed by political reasons (introducing some electricity being assumed to be green, even though all things considered it's highly debatable), and the battery weight wipes out all supposed performance benefits compared to other options.
