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  1. tclark

    tclark Formula Junior

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    #1 tclark, Jul 17, 2005
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    Yesterday I installed the hyperflow cats on the 348 as provded by Daniel at Ricambi America. For any shade tree mechanics out there who are going to
    attempt this, allow me to share my experience. As has been posted many
    times before, soak all the existing bolts a couple of days prior to starting,
    with a good penetrant in order to ease removal.
    I had done a lot of searching far as jack points for the 348. One thread had
    pictures of a 348 on jackstands. When I saw that picture, I thought there is
    no way in hell I'm going to be yanking on a wrench under that car while it's
    up on jackstands. The solution was to build a set of ramps that had a shallow
    angle that I could simply back the car onto and chock the front wheels. Extreme stability, no chance of a mishap.

    Before you start, go to your local mom and pop hardware store and buy 4 bolts 4"x5/16" along with 4 nuts and 8 washers. You will need these to reinstall your new cats. Details below.
    Next, comes disassembly. Several previous threads have stated that you must remove the exhaust, bumper and airbox. Other's have stated just the
    opposite. Here's my take. My car is of the single can exhaust type, so all
    comments apply to that style only. The twin can exhaust may be different.

    1: Remove the two heat shields
    2: Remove the 4 bolts that secure the exhaust hanger bracket to the frame,
    do not remove the exhaust. This will allow enough movement of the ex-
    haust for removing the cats.
    3: Remove the 2 bolts on the exhaust side, and the 2 bolts on the engine
    side of each cat. You will need 13mm open end wrenches and 13 mm
    ratchet with extensions. Some aren't too bad to get at, some are a
    real b!tch.
    4: Remove thermocouple sensors from the exhaust side of each cat. I think
    it was a 10mm open end wrench.
    5: Unplug the connectors from the O2 sensors. If you follow the cable from
    the O2 sensor, it splits into two separate connections that snap in just
    below and in front of the air box. You can, albeit with some difficulty,dis-
    connect them without removing the air box.
    6: Remove the cats with the O2 sensor in place. The previous removal of the
    exhaust bracket bolts will allow sufficient movement of the exhaust so
    that the cats can now be removed.
    7: Remove the O2 sensors. All that is needed is a 22mm open end wrench.
    As repeatedly stated on fchat, these are indeed very fragile sensors. Han-
    dle with extreme caution. I don't know if it would have been possible
    to disconnect the O2 sensors from the cats while they were still on the
    car. Perhaps hacksawing a 22mm wrench would have allowed sufficient
    clearance in the very tight spaces. If it is possible, skip step 5 above.
    8: Install the O2 sensors in new cats. Since everything is very accessible at
    this point externally ground the O2 sensors just to be safe. It has been
    noted on this site that some of the 348 electrical gremlins are due to
    inadequate grounding. Simply secure a 12AWG wire to the outside body
    of the O2 sensor with a small hose clamp. The other end of the wire goes
    to any good grounding point on the frame.
    9: Scrape off any debris remaining from the old donuts where the front side
    of the cats will reattach
    10: Install the new cats using the 4"x5/16" bolts on the engine side of each
    cat, and the old bolts on the exhaust side of each cat. The springs and
    bushings can be removed from the old unused bolts and be used for the
    4 new bolts. The reason the new bolts are needed is that the hyperflow
    cats have a much longer bellmouth or flare at the end of them. This pre-
    vents the two halves of the coupler from getting as close together as
    was on the stock cats. See the second picture below. Sorry for the
    crap photography. Both cats are shown with the coupler pushed as far
    forward as possible. You can see why a longer bolt would be necessary.
    Oh yeah, don't forget to put the new donuts on.
    Reinstalling the new cats was the most time consuming part of the job.
    It takes a little time to get the couplers in the exact position in order
    to be able to get clearance to retighten the bolts. If I were to do it
    again, I think I would take a picture of the couplers prior to removal so
    as to more easily orient them correctly when it was time to reassemble.
    11: Reinstall the thermocouple probes. Reconnect both O2 sensor plugs for
    each cat at the front underside of the airbox. Reinstall the heat shields.
    12: Make sure no tools are laying anywhere inside the engine compartment.
    Shut the hood, jump in the car, fire her up and check for exhaust leaks.
    If you haven't yet, crack open a cold one and listen for a few minutes
    before you shut it off. In my case, you could crack open a few because
    it was pouring down rain with intense lightning. Oh well, the test drive
    will have to wait.

    Thanks to all who have posted threads on this. It's the previous threads that
    gave me the "stones" to attempt this. And of course, thanks to you Daniel.


    Pic 1: Car on ramps capable of supporting Kirstie Alley
    Pic 2: Comparison on flange on old and new cats
    Pic 3: One new sleek feline, one old fat cat
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  2. markcF355

    markcF355 F1 Rookie

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    You made your own ramps?
     
  3. tclark

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    Yes. The ramps I've seen in the past have to steep of an incline and they
    don't seem to be wide enough. Additionally, they really want to slide around
    at times. Better safe than sorry.
     
  4. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Fantastic write up, and good job.
     
  5. AVFIN

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    Just checking out those cats for my Mondial. Let me know if you feel a difference in power or performance from the old ones??

    LIke the ramp!!!
     
  6. Mike C

    Mike C F1 Veteran
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    I just put on a Hyperflow cat from Ricambi-America.com to replace my Stebro euro resonator (test pipe). They Hyperflow has very little difference in feel or sound from the test pipe. The test pipe had A LOT better feel (faster revving up) and sound than the OEM cat on my car.
     
  7. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Nice job!
     
  8. Ricambi America

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    Not too get too commercial here, but are you saying the HyperFlow sounded and felt pretty darn close to the test pipe in your experience?
     
  9. tvu

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    Great write up. I like your ramps. I had to build my own also since even with the low profile Rhino ramps, the front ends were scraping. I took me probably a week to install my set - but I'm not that mechanically inclined.
    Great job! Let us know if you notice any difference in the drive.
     
  10. hank sound

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    Hi Mike,

    I just got my Hyper-flows from Daniel as well. Since Mr. Capristo does not yet make a silencer to fit a Mondial t, I will put the H-fs in front of the OEM exhaust. My question, what do you have for a silencer?

    Cheers, Hank
     
  11. Gimme Fuel

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    Great write-up Tom :)

    Now tell me, this was done on a SS, is this the excact same procedure on a TB/TS and Spider as well??? I cant think of why it should be any difference though, but I just need to be sure..cus maybe I'll borrow this text for one of the "How to" pages in the forthcoming 348 mag. :)
     
  12. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I finally went the hyperflow route back in Apr and I absolutely love it. My biggest complaint was the strong exhaust odor that the test pipes allowed. The hyperflow solved it completely and I really can't tell a huge performance loss vs the test pipe. In fact I can't tell any seat of the pants performance loss at all.
     
  13. Mike C

    Mike C F1 Veteran
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    A bit late to answer the question, but YES, that's what I meant!
     
  14. Mike C

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    Stebro, and love it, especially the feature of having removable tip inserts.
     
  15. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Me too. It is a test pipe without the smell.

    It is so close that I'll never go back to a test pipe again. No way.
     
  16. velocityengineer

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    If you spent all the money on trick cats, why would you use a "mom nad pop" hardware store bolt? This is a high stress-high temperature job for a fastener. Crap bolts will seize, crack or even break in that location.

    Go buy or order nice stainless steel bolts and you wont have to soak everything for days with penetrant to remove them.

    I say do it right if its apart and in the air.

    Cheers

    Eric
     

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