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  1. yelcab

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    #1 yelcab, Sep 17, 2016
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    I bought this cheapy Facom oil filter tool and it has lasted for 2 years. Then it met its match this week. A filter that has been put on so tight that the little Facom 3/8 hole gave up. I thought I would just buy a Hill Engr filter wrench but it was $100 with shipping. You know, that is 20% toward a really good Lincoln welder, and my borrowed Lincoln welder has been given back. So, I bought a new 140 welder today and made my own 1/2 oil filter tool. I am not proud of the weld, but it does work.

    Got to find more reasons to weld stuff so that I can pay for the welder.
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  2. phrogs

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    You want it to sound like bacon frying as you're runing the bead.
     
  3. phrogs

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    Also junk the flux cord wire its garbage, get good wire and argon bottle for mig If you didn't.
     
  4. Dave rocks

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    At some point, we will be offering a tool at a better price point with some other advantages :)
     
  5. Dave rocks

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    And Mitch, go find a used Miller TIG and don't waste time and money on MIG welders. I learned how to TIG when I was 20 building dragster chassis. Best welding method for precision, splatter free welds. I can also weld .010" to a 5" block - not the easiest to do with a MIG. MIG is for speed (production) and low heat (body spot welds).
     
  6. yelcab

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    I did buy a welder that can be set up for gas so I think I will go that route for now.
     
  7. Dave rocks

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    I have a Miller Syncrowave 250. Bought new in 1997 with a cooler unit for $3200. These thinks almost never break.

    Miller was making a more hobby model which a friend bought IIRC for $1000 but they had no foot pedal (must IMO) and without a cooler you can't do too much.

    If you could find a used 250 for $1500 or so you would never look at another welder again. The control with TIG is amazing.
     
  8. 308 GTB

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    You should be, Mitchell. Now that filter tool of yours has some character. :)
     
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    #9 fatbillybob, Sep 17, 2016
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    There is a reason for every process. Fluxcore is awesome. All the big skyscrapers are all stick which is basically fluxcore. You can weld a bigger piece of metal with flux on that small machine than you can with MIG and you can do it in the wind. I can weld flux that will rival a TIG weld. I use both Lincoln MIG and Miller TIG. Each has it's function. I piggy back my MIG AR/C02 tank off my Miller cart to save space. An autodimming welding helmet is the only way to go.
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    Regarding this application Mitch posted, the best choice would be TIG. It's a precision, small weld. Did he get it done with MIG? Yep. But had he used TIG the title of the thread would have been "I'm proud" :)

    Another great benefit to TIG is no sparks flying around the shop.

    TIG is considered to be the most difficult type of welding to learn but I find it easy, perhaps because I learned it first.

    In this video, these guys chat about some of the differences. Production speed of a lot of welding seems to be what they agree a MIG is good for similar to want I said above.

    http://youtu.be/n0Es3ltPVKc
     
  11. 166&456

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    TIG is harder to learn but indeed neater. The drawback is that the gap of the workpiece to be welded needs to be very even to produce nice welds. If that is difficult to achieve, like when the workpiece is uneven in thickness or has uneven gaps, MIG is often easier and gives better results. Another benefit imo of MIG is that uses less gas.
    In all welding, CLEAN metal is vital to nice blob- (and splatter) free results.
     
  12. plugzit

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    Sometimes you just want to stick two pieces together and get on with the job.
    Those two pieces look stuck together. :)
     
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    Lots of companies that work with stainless steel here in socal have switched over to mig for the simple truth the newer gas mixtures and ease of use make it a better solution.
    These are standard products not scientific or military. What I saw I did not believe it was mig. I am convinced now

    Try the new migs with specific gas, purge weld some stainless you would be amazed at the results.

    very user friendly for the non everyday welder to get excellent results.

    :)
     
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    #14 fatbillybob, Sep 18, 2016
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    So true! The best weld is the one that works. I gave up on ferrari oil filters altogether. My changes are fast, cheap, with 8 micron filtration from race proven billet technology.
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    You stud LOL
     
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    Yes. Used on other cars and racecar for years. Really quick fast oil changes and filters really cheap. Cribbj started using them on the maranello and a few of us followed along. They make sense for us.
     
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    I have a miller 211 with auto set and 115/230volt capabilities. For what I use it for it does the job pretty well. I have an AL spool gun, but I am not very good with it.

    Amazing how much better it welds when you remember to turn on the gas!! Get some gas.
     
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    Thanks. I recall speaking to John about them a few years back. Seems like an interesting alternative to OE. On the welding front, we use the Binford 6000 series, Mark IV welding system.
     
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    #20 drbob101, Sep 18, 2016
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    Binford manufacturers some amazing equipment David. I'm impressed that your shop uses nothing but the most advanced state of the art stuff! Kudos to you. I've got one of these from them.
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    25-464F - CM 6.25" FERRARI BILLET SPIN-ON FILTER 3/4"-16 THREAD 2 5/8 O-RING (25-464F)
     
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    Stooge tool award!

    Love it!
     
  23. yelcab

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    I am aware that TIG is superior to MIG when it comes to precision and pretty welds. Hell, just look at those motorcycle frames where the pooling is just about perfect. However, the price of entry is north of $1,000 and at that price point, the oil filter wrench does not make sense. In addition, what I have learned in the last 20 years is all self taught and I am going to learn on MIG first.

    Like Tim said, I just wanted to stick those two pieces together and move on. And they stuck, and I moved on.

    TIG, another day perhaps.
     
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