I had to quote this. Stoptech Vs Brembo

xavior · Jun 6, 2007

Only because I have purchased the front and rear stoptechs for my 355. I was starting to get concerned. My stock brembos on my type r failed when I took it to suzuka so I decided to do the stoptech route. Here is the quote

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136786138&postcount=16

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Stoptechs are crap, plain and simple. Yes, they are on some low-level racecars, and yes you can find them on cars at Hot Import Nights. They are just fine for many cars to upgrade from stock 1 piston sliding calipers. Their calipers used to be made in China for pete's sake! Now they're made in Taiwan. Still want to use them? And do they forge their own calipers? Cast their own rotors with input from expert metallurgists? They just machine some hats and brackets, and put up articles to make people believe they're buying F1 parts. To see them behind the wheels of a Ferrari is just sad.
Brembo and AP Racing are the only components to use for serious cars. The engineering and expertise of the best companies just can't be matched. Off the shelf kits might not be exactly perfect, but putting a system together from their catalog of parts will blow away the competition.
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Viper 10 said: ↑

Excuse me but what got your short in a bundle about Stop Tech? For one thing it is obvious that you have never driven on a track and compared Brembo to Stop Tech. You are spewing the typical crap that Brembo loves to spread about them and yet when it comes down to outright performance Brembo and AP are usually outdone by Stop Tech.

How can you compare these two companies to begin with? Brembo is tha largest brake manufacturer in the world and they focus 98% of their business being an OE supplier with extremely high volumes. Very little engineering is dedicated at Brembo to the after market, because they depend on tuners to adapt their brakes to a specific car. Notice that I did NOT say engineer or design for the after market? Brembo sponsors teams to race their products and racers pay for Stop Tech brakes because they work and perform as advertised. Stop Tech does not have the deep pockets that Brembo has to sponsor entire race series' and to sonsor an entire field of racers. These two companies are on opposite side of the spectrum and you are a fool if you think that they are direct competitors.

Every tuner on earth sells AP and Brembo because they are well recognized for their successes in the OE world and their race marketing success. If Stop Tech are so crappy, then why did Paul Mumford kick everyone's a$$es in Speed Challenge with Stop Tech's.

I have over 35 years of track experience and I must state that Stop Tech truly walks the walk when it comes to performance. They kick the crap out of Brembo in the BMW, Audi, Corvette & Viper world without much trouble. The Brembo's that were OE on my Viper boiled fluid after 5 laps at Buttonwillow Raceway and reached running temperatures in excess of 1,200 degrees C. The pedal feel and brake modulation was horrendous and they faded like crazy. Don't ever try to compare an OE Brembo brake set up to a brake systems that is designed and engineered for track and street use.

On the other hand, Stop Tech designed a superior system for all of the cars that I mentioned. I have not seen a single instance on the track where Brembo outperformed Stop Tech when stress tested. Under the same testing, the Stop Tech's heated up to 790 degrees on the same day. Wherever Stop Tech chooses to play, they always design their brakes to blow away Brembo in all categories (especially price). By the way, Stop Tech is the defacto standard upgrade for all Corvettes and Vipers who actually drive their cars and aren't looking for the Bling factor.

As for your comments about manufacturing in the Orient, I must once again say that you are full of crap and drinking your own Kool Aid. I am a part owner of a ISO 9001/TS certified stainless steel factory in the Orient that supplies companies like Proton, GM, Ford, BMW, Toyota, Honda and many more with exhaust systems. I can state that there is not a single well known after market US domestic exhaust manufacturer that can touch our quality using robotic TIG and SS casting... this is what folks like Edelbrock, Corsa, Borla, Gale Banks and many more have told us when they saw samples of our work. When it comes to price performance and quality it is hard to touch the newer generation factories in the Orient which blow away everything in the US as well as most of the factories in Europe.

The bottom line is that you better get your butt out on the track to see what an after market Brembo does compared to their OE stuff and then compare the performance to Stop Tech. I have used Stop Tech on my daily driver 1996 Viper GTS Coupe (that also goes to the track 5 times each year) for the last 8 years. I have also driven AP, Alcon, Brakeman, Wilwood and Brembo equivalents and Stop Tech wins. I can take the exact same trail and threshold braking lines (on any technically challenging tracks) as any 996 Turbo, 360, 430, 575 Ferrari any day of the week and be out there long after they overheat their wonderful Brembo brakes.

Please stop spending so much energy in trying to trash Stop Tech and understand that companies like theirs makes companies like Brembo better because of the competition. You also show how bigoted your allegiances are to labels and name brands versus form and function.

Brembo is a marketing machine of a company and Stop Tech is an engineering company. You will NEVER see the use of an adjustable proportioning valve inserted into a Stop Tech designed brake system. Can you say the same about the other manufacturers that I have mentioned? Do you even know what an adjustable proportioning valve is for?

Lastly, try to get any find of support from Brembo for an after market application and they will laugh at you, refer you back to the unqualified tuner (who you wasted money with) and hang up. The guys at Stop Tech have impeccable support and I will also add that they are folks that are accountable to their customers and have the highest integrity.

I am not trying to pick a fight here, but I did want to share with you my first hand track and street experiences with Brembo and Stop Tech... which seems to be missing in this lopsided thread.

If any of you would like to take this discussion off-line or have any specific questions, please feel free to email me at [email protected] .

Brad
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