I hate everything! Some lady hit my TR!!!

Dear Ferraristi,

Mr. Chaiman,

Your posts are very interesting and informative.

....much better that the $5.00 camera argument.

Kenco...it may be too late, the insurance co. is already sending the check, yes ?

I hope it works out.

BTW, no wonder you told me your wife cost so much.....banged up Tahoe ! . Plus, I bet she bought a new pair of shoes to make herself feel better after damaging the truck


Shamile

Freeze...Miami Vice !

 

Dont forget, it was "Disposable"

 

I passed on a car with documented cosmetic only damage which was properly repaired (all new Ferrari parts) if you were not told it was damaged you would not have known, everything else was equal to the one I bought (price, service history, paperwork etc. ) the damaged one did have fewer miles 5K or so. I just didn't want a Ferrari that had had pieces replaced due to a accident so in my eyes there was a diminished value to the car, it had a story.

 

Even though the check has been issued its does not close the door for diminished value. Funny my wife always finds a reason to buy a new pair of shoes or bag.. lol

Be well

R

 

Wow, their are some VERY knowledgeable people posting on this thread. I'm just a wrench turner and shade tree enthusiast, not an authority. I can't speak about diminished value, but from looking at the pics of the body damage, this will be an easy job. When Aluminum is dented in or out from it's basic form, it stretches and relaxes, where as steel stretches and continues pulling in tension. That's why you can "pop" a dent out of steel, but you CANNOT out of aluminum. With aluminum you have to find a way to "shrink" the surrounding metal. The best way is to twist and mildly distort the surface structure to "soak up" the extra material length introduced by the dent. There isn't any undercoating or covering of the inner quarter panel in the area of the damage on your Testarossa so that's not a problem. If there was....some shops would use this as a way to hide a repair. Also luckily there is no real structural stress at the point of damage on your quarter panel, so a really good body man should be able to repair this damage very well. Values and Perceptions are important and do have some bearing on this issue, but the actual physical and mechanical repairs are not really that bad at all. As I said earlier, the paint matching will be the biggest issue. A top notch shop should be able to fix this up very well. It's a total shame that this happened. But hopefully things will work out to your satisfaction. I've had 2 very high dollar cars repairs in the past, one of them aluminum, one of them aluminum/steel....and using the best shop I could find, I was happy with the results. I guess I'm just hoping to put your mind at ease some what....because I know how stressful this situation is for you. It will be okay...

 

Amen to that brother...

R

 

Does this eliminate PDR methodologies? Are they actually 'popping' or shrinking the metal... or both?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54CIlUfyQXo

Obviously not suitable for KENCO's car...

Rgds,
Vince

 

Sorry to hear!
That sux on such a beauty.

 

Great for steel - any data points on aluminum?
Rgds,
Vince

 

Kenco... that estimate is pretty shabby but the important thing is that the shop properly do the repair. If he under charges for the repair thats his problem. I will prepare an estimate and post it to show what the repair estimate should look like.

Be well...

R

 

Here is my version of the estimate matching labor rates.

Sorry about the sleep issue. You can clearly see a difference in the way the estimate is prepared.

R
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Some say that this isn't as bad, well it can be. I had a body shop paint three times my Testarossa, the engine lid and rear drivers corner just like you. A tech. closed the lid with a screwdriver right at the edge and dented the fender and lid. The body shop didn't get the paint done right after three tries so then I took it to another shop where the guys did it right, and it was over $5,000 only for painting the sheet metal was already fixed prior to that, but the dealership paid for it. Good luck.

 

Usually the emblems break when removed or they have a self tapping post. Sometimes double sided tape. Nameplates should always be replaced. The last thing you want is a nameplate to fling off while driving. Now the quarter glass issue. They could mask around the glass but it is not recommended. When the glass is taken out you can fully clear the panel and edge. When you mask there is a chance that the clear will eventually break down at the mask line and start to chip away. Glass companies are usually called in to do the job. Its the standard when repairing exotics, new cars, and high end cars. It would be good to check stock and availability of glass (in case of an accident - precaution) and belt molding prior to removal.

Be well... lol sleep tight..

R

 

Snap some pictures when your there and post them PM if you dont want to post. I just love the fact that so many people are chiming in on this. Bravo to the forum..

R

 

There is nothing wrong with the original estimate. Yours is just a "worked " estimate that gets an adjuster a little something extra from the bodyshop for writing it. We can thank estimates like yours for high insurance premiums.

 

Ken
You must take all this advice with a grain of salt. Fixed properly there will be no diminished value. A painter with a good paint system and a keen eye should be able to match that color within the quater panel without having to go into the door. It would make no sense to take out the quater window as that is not attached to the quater panel and would have no bearing on painting the quater panel properly. Just the molding would need to be removed. Keep an eye on what the shop is doing and dont accept the job unless you like it.

 

We will see his results and come to conclusions as to how good or bad the work was done as soon as he gets his car back. The problem is that the Testarossa has single stage paint and the orange peel finish, I think he is in trouble and it wont be done right for cheap. Every single body panel that needs fixing will need to be completely painted in order to look factory, there's no spot fixing and painting on these type of older cars, I don't think.