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I have had it with this piece of junk!

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by rudyF599, Jul 24, 2018.

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  1. SCEye

    SCEye F1 Rookie

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    what is a regular production car?
     
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  2. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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  3. Golden Steed

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    Apparently what it is NOT is something that goes very fast with a Mercedes emblem on it... o_O
     
  4. JohnTz

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    your right...everyone thinks about Mercedes and a Yaris when they compare F,L,Mac. I'm out...
     
  5. NeuroBeaker

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    I don't think anyone is talking about the Yaris as a valid comparison except the frustrated OP. :)

    However, I do think cars like the SLS are compared to the 599 and F12. Front-engine, rear wheel drive, massively powerful, well-appointed luxury GT cars. An SLS has a certain wow factor to it that is in excess of your usual sports commuter cars such as the AMG saloons. Subjectively, I think the wow factor on any Ferrari is higher, but as a piece of engineering, you can argue that the performance levels and expense of certain Mercedes models put them unquestionably into the supercar category.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
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  6. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    I have to say, when I started buying supercars properly in 2002, my expectation/fear was the potential cost of issues. I’ve had over 50 different cars of all marques including an EB110, and the only issue I’ve ever had was a radiator split on a 599. When you see where the radiator is, I’m surprised they don’t split weekly for people like me who like to enjoy their cars properly, if it didn’t, it was just once, and while the job overall cost £8000 as they took the opportunity to do some preventative suspension replacements, I found it pretty reasonable.

    I think if cars are well looked after, these days, any car, supercar or not, can be reliable as the next. Treat them badly, you’ll get issues, it’s natures way of teaching you to take care of your motor!
     
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  7. Nospinzone

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    My Rolex is very reliable. It reliably loses one minute every week!
     
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  8. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    Only a minute? Wow, you have a good one! Hehehehe.
     
  9. Xtreme5053

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    EB110 is pretty sharp; did you ever have an XJ220?
     
  10. daytona355

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    The EB was a rocket when you had learnt it’s foibles, but terrifying too! Never had a 220, something about them I couldn’t get into back in the day, but i think only because none passed through the dealerships while I was having my ‘buy what u see’ phase that got very expensive! Had one come in I’m sure I’d have tried one for size!
     
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  11. ARH

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    This thread begs the question, what is a steering column leak? Why is there fluid in the steering column?
     
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  12. NeuroBeaker

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    Mine gains 2 minutes a week. :)

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  13. Carper

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    Get it serviced !

    Just had mine done ( £625 ) ... it is 12 years old and has only gained 10 seconds in the 4 weeks since i got it back.
     
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  14. MrF355

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    Mine gains a minute each week, so between us we have the correct time. :)
     
  15. kerrari

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    car will be better off with another owner...

    my 308 will be 40 years old next year, I've been its carer for the past 16 - zero regrets. Sometimes it just needs the right person with the right car.
     
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  16. Texas Forever

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    Great response.

    Based on what I have heard over the years, Ferrari’s quality control problem started in the Fiat era. Not only were cars getting more complicated and production increased, but the accountants started doing the buying of the bits and pieces. Couple this with Spa’s general distain for mass customers and the Italian shrug of the shoulders, lead to fuse boxes melting, headers breaking, value guides leaking, and on and on.

    I’ve always said it is too bad that Ferrari never cut a deal with Toyota. Ferrari designs ‘em and sends the plans to Japan. Toyota builds ‘em and then ships the cars to Maranello in the dead of the night.

    Simple truth it is hard to build cars today on such small volume. You never gain the benefits of the learning curve, but your volume is too much to make custom hand built cars. If I ran Ferrari, and you’re probably glad I don’t, I would cut volume in half and double the price.
     
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  17. NYFAIM

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    Agreed! Mine new from the dealer reliably lost 2 minutes a week - after service it's been close to perfect.
     
  18. intrepidcva11

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    Recall early railroading days when engineers, conductors and stationmasters HAD to have accurate time in order that trains not only run on time, arriving and departing stations according to timetable but more important to avoid two trains trying to occupy the same tangent of track at the same time, going in opposite directions. So railroad watches were required to be accurate to not more than 30 seconds per week or four seconds a day. My Rolex is within that tolerance - fewer than 4 sec/day. Two years ago I noticed my dad's old Gruen 'Verithin' Pentagon Precision pocket watch in a bureau drawer. He got it in the 1920s and passed in 1980. I decided to have it serviced - CLA = clean lubricate adjust - by a master watchmaker in New York City. It too keeps time to a tolerance of about + 3.5 sec/day as it should since it is a 17 jewel chronometer movement
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  19. davemqv

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    I grew up thinking Rolex watches (and other auto's) kept consistent time, not accurate time, if that makes sense. Like, a Rolex Sub worn regularly will adhere to the same +/- pattern, but it will always be a little bit off. My Dad always said that quartz watches keep the best time but that they're boring. Haha.

    But yeah, I agree with your point completely.
     
  20. davemqv

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    Case in point!
     
  21. raines

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    I was told since I have a vintage Rolex it should not be serviced at all! Oh well, as everyone stares at me walking in late to a meeting, I'll just point to my watch and say, "vintage".
     
  22. syata

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    Vintage watches can be serviced. I think what you are hearing but the persons are also not telling you is that if you have your vintage Rolex serviced by a Rolex dealer who sends them in then the parts you get are new parts. Also if something if your vintage watch has not genuine Rolex parts, ie an aftermarket band the Roles service will try and replace it or I heard will keep the aftermarket parts.
    I also heard if your Rolex has the plexiglass and it needs replacing then they will put a crystal in it since they don’t/May no longer have the original part.
    The biggest thing is they will polish your watch making or trying to make it look like new.
    All this replacing with new, non-period pieces will the devalue your vintage Rolex.


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  23. syata

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    I should say devalue for the people who will pay more for a period correct watch with patina.


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  24. syata

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    Independent watch repair places that specialize in Rolex will only do what you tell them and for the most cases the use Rolex parts... not on the little things like pins


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  25. sidtx

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    But will your Rolex function properly when worn while driving a Yaris?

    Will the performance of the Yaris affect the precision time-keeping of a Rolex? Maybe a watch with a Tourbillon is needed?

    Sid
     
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