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  1. speedy pete

    speedy pete Karting

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    So I rebuilt my F355 6sp manual clutch and I need to re-grease the clutch springs. Problem is Ricambi is all out of Kluber clutch grease. Anyone know where I can get 200grams of it? Holy **** I could find a kilo of fine Peruvian blow easier than this stuff. LOL...This sucks I want to get the car back together!
     
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  3. Ferrarium

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  4. Zamboniman308

    Zamboniman308 Karting

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    Someone was trying a readily available low cost alternative on here recently. Wonder how thats working out?
     
  5. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    The issue isn't availability --- its how to legally bring it into the United States with correct paperwork. Could I cram it into a box and make a customs declaration that was false, misleading, or incorrect? Yes.

    Would that be legal? No. I'm 100% certain others will do it. I won't.

    The correct HTS codes for it require a pile of additional paperwork and transport restrictions that make it (currently) cost prohibitive for a micro-importer like me. There are many alternatives which can work; I am still trying to develop confidence which one is appropriate for re-sale.
     
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  6. surfwolf

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    Thank You Daniel for the explanation, and your ethics make me always feel good about my Ricambi purchases!
     
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  8. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Just some random datapoints:

    Decades ago I used a nothing special generic high temp marine grease and it worked great. But I did not have a long-term time test. I was racing my 348 and before the testing was complete I converted to a solid flywheel. I figure I had maybe 6 months and couple thousand miles on the marine grease.

    In a companion thread someone is trying Super lube right now. I'm not sure if his car is running yet but you might want to check in to hear about his results.
    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/148277095/

    Kluber grease has a very weird feel unlike any grease I have handled before. It has an unusual stiffness like when my wife whips egg whites and pulls the spatula and the whites stand straight up without falling over. I think it is that property that holds the parts well.

    If the Kluber is going to be hard to get then the community is going to have to step up like it has in the past to experiment to find an alternative grease.
     
  9. johnk...

    johnk... F1 Veteran
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    Can't you get it through their US division?

    https://www.klueber.com/us/en/company/klueber-lubrication-usa/
     
  10. 05elise

    05elise Karting

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    I have a tube of it I will sell if you haven't already found some. Just send me a private conversation message if you want it.
     
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  13. Ricambi America

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    $1/gram ? :eek: Even I cannot stomach that... and that's saying a lot.

    There are not many buyers at that price, especially when other DMF greases (check the VW/Audi world) are available.
     
  14. POLO35

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    I just did mine last month and anguished as to what kind of grease to use. Wound up using a product made by super lube, it is a synthetic silicone based grease with with better specs and a higher melt temp than kluber.....$15 for a 400 gram tub! Incidentally 200g was not near enough to fill it entirely, I wound up using almost 300g. Also the grease is fortified with PTFE you can actually see the nearly microscopic fibers in the grease. Clutch is working like new!
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  15. POLO35

    POLO35 Formula Junior

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    #13 POLO35, Jan 15, 2022
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    PS.....it is also white and the exact same NLGI 2 rating as Kluber....Ie same consistently. NLGI 2 has the consistency of room temp peanut butter.
     
  16. yelcab

    yelcab F1 World Champ
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    Kluber grease is not as thick as peanut butter but I am not sure if that is required for it to work. How is SuperLube working in your car?
     
  17. POLO35

    POLO35 Formula Junior

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    It's working beautifully! I had the dreaded hot start issue where it sounded like the starter was missing all its teeth and a can of marbles at shut down. Now it is perfect. I've taken it on several outings and got it nice and hot down here in Florida and it is perfect. I guess time will tell how long it lasts. I really believe what causes this grease failure is the triple seals leaking rather than age or grease quality. Here is an NLGI chart with layperson descriptions of consistency.

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  18. POLO35

    POLO35 Formula Junior

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    PS.... My old grease was almost completely liquified from years and years of triple seals leaking and I'm sure stretching back to previous owners. Alsi that awful gear oil smell which my wife complained about for weeks because it stunk up the garage. Personally I believe it's less important as to what kind of grease is used, but rather than it's more important to prevent triple seals from leaking and stay on top of it.
     

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