I Predicted!!! Manual Conversions < F1

Over 90% of all Ferrari's made were manuals.

 

And now mine is one of them [emoji2]

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Are you sure of that number? Over 40,000 have been built since 2011 and it took from 1949 until 1971 before annual production topped 1000.

 

Nice pair! Here is another gated new and old classic duo
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*just to clarify, Dino and 355 above are not mine. Was just showing a pic as symbolism . I did buy two 355’s though.

 

dino is not mine either! It belongs to my uncle, he took the pic when he was storing my car for a bit

 

Your answer still failed to specify the mechanical part or system problem that made the customer unhappy (and which allegedly caused the competitor to claim his system would have to be substituted in whole). Typical sour grapes. The manual conversion is at the end of the day a simple mechanical shifting method--it shouldn't be that hard.

That particular 599 was done with a hard shaft linkage to the transaxle, which works poorly even on the factory manuals because of the lack of room and interference with the torque tube. That inherent problem was solved by EAG and others with a cable linkage which is a superior system.

 

I'd like to hear Wil DeGroots response to your opinion. He's at ExoticarsUSA in Frenchtown NJ. He has numerous 599s undergoing conversion currently.

 

Ferrari has built more cars in the last 20 years than the previous 50+. Almost all of them are autos. The percentage of manuals overall is now less than 50% and dropping fast.

Dave

 

Better get one then when you can.

Every car maker has moved away. Call it consumer preference or government regulations but its inevitable.

"Converting" to me makes no sense. Just buy a car with a manual if that's what you want. Who the hell is going to convert an Enzo to manual? And is it really "an Enzo" if it is?

IMO, I see a diminishing market for manuals because people never owned one and can't get one. A self fulfilling prophecy. That being said, I now own 2 manual cars of the vintage era because -- I like them. Not difficult to do.

 

What if one wants a decently fast car for the road + manual? If it’s too old, it might be too slow to some people’s liking. For ex. an F355 is faster than a 288 GTO and it ain’t even that fast.

 

A 550 is certainly no track weapon (nor drag strip hero) but for the road it's fast enough - and to go faster (in different conditions than legally constrained public roads) it's better to use adapted and more advanced technology (e.g. DCT) in my view... This being said, everybody is free to spend his own money to his tastes (even if it's pointless )

 

I hear ya. Personally, for the streets, I can’t do anything slower than a 355 and I don’t need anything faster than 458 Speciale.

 

100 percent me too. 355 360 430 gated are the best ferraris to enjoy on the streets


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Think of converting your Ferrari to manual as insurance against theft by Gen Z. They don't know how to drive a manual.

 

I bought a brand new 430 3 pedal coupe in 2005. I still have it.

 

I tried to order one from the dealer as a 2008 model. Dealer told me I might never get the car. So I ordered F1.

 

That garage is get a lawn chair out and savour

 

I know few people who ended up in the same boat. Of course, in 2008-09 they wanted to sell Scuds. They were basically de-contented 430s that sold for an extra 100K! Who could blame them?

 

I was only interested in a spider so the Scud was out of the question. Later they announced the 16M but there was no way I was going to be able to get one even if I wanted it. I do like the 16M but if they made more, the price would be more inline what I think the real comparative value is. Its too expensive because of its rarity.

 

Hey Dave, glad you kept your 6M 430. I sold my ‘08 back in pre pandemic 2019. Your car is worth a pretty penny! I could have gotten a lot more for my car had I known cars would skyrocket in value during the pandemic. Oh well, who would know and I didn’t get many solid offers while the car was for sale. Hope you’re doing well!!

 

I can identify. I sold a 328 GTB just before they doubled, then tripled!

Dave

 

I bought a 2005 430 spider manual for 125000 cad in 2014.it had 12000km on it.The dealership was bending over backwards to get rid of this car at that time.They even replaced the headers with mk2. I think the hype train started when Ferrari announced they no longer going to make manual cars.