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i think i'm being scammed...

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by johng, Nov 7, 2006.

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  1. johng

    johng Formula 3

    Oct 23, 2004
    2,298
    northern va
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    john g
    i have my testarossa listed in the FCA news bulletin and recently got an email inquiry for the car. i received two emails from the potential buyer, each consisting only of requests for pictures and my final price. i responded once with pics and both times with a declaration that the final price will reflect my level of care and maintenance for the car. he then sends me a third email informing me he will buy the car. he states that he will send me a certified check for $35k, from which i will keep $30K and use the remaining $5K for transport back to london. the remainder of the money will be paid upon his inspection of the car (in london). he wants my full name, address, etc. oh, he still wants my absolute bottom price. sounds like a scam. just thought i would share.

    john
     
  2. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Dec 6, 2002
    79,380
    Houston, Texas
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    Bubba
    Darn, keep trying! LOL!

    What's your total ask? That's what the check should read and HE should handle it from there........

    I'd count all the money, as it leaves your driveway......
     
  3. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    May 4, 2001
    36,433
    Birmingham, AL
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    Tommy
    One of the most popular scams out there right now. Just block it and move on. Trust me.
     
  4. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    100,220
    Mount Isa, Australia
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    Pap
    Hold onto the car and sell it to somone else. :)
    My mate looked at this Diablo. RHD UK car. The car was selling for AU$38K!! UNHEARD OF!!! CHEAP!! I said to my mate, it has to be a replica for the money. This guy emailed him pics, it looked like real yellow Diablo. Interior, engine and all. I said then the pics are real, but the car is stolen. Or he does not even own/have the car. My mate was almost ready to transfer the money over to this clown!!! I told him to get his number, to at least call him to talk to him about it. The guy replies back in an email, stating he has not got a telephone number at the moment. BS!! SCAMMER!! My friend was so upset that he didnt get the car. He is ******, as he knows they sell for around AU$260K+. No way he was getting it for AU$38K delivered to Australia. :) A pipe dream at best. :p
     
  5. glasser1

    glasser1 Formula Junior

    Sep 2, 2006
    510
    Oregon
    Why is this a scam? He wants to send you a check for $35k? Keep it until it clears. If it's good he's trusting you to ship him the car. Would you offer to send someone $35K and trust that they'd ship you a car?

    Why don't you tell him your final price???

    The only way to do this so that you both are protected is through www.escrow.com or a similar company. Of course that's after you tell him what you'll sell the car for.
     
  6. UroTrash

    UroTrash Four Time F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner

    Jan 20, 2004
    40,487
    Purgatory
    Full Name:
    Clifford Gunboat
  7. Dincenzo

    Dincenzo Formula 3

    Oct 11, 2005
    2,434
    Columbia, SC
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    Adrian
    A reputable escrow company is the way to go, and should not be a problem
    if both parties are legit. This sounds really fishy. The scammer's goal is to
    get you to "trust" him. What better way than to send you this money in
    good faith.

    Basically, you will sell your testarossa for 30 grand and it will disappear
    overseas. Then you will have a hell of a time getting it back once it leaves
    U.S. soil.

    You think you're being scammed? Trust your instincts. Next buyer please!
     
  8. jimpo1

    jimpo1 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Jul 30, 2001
    24,905
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    Jim E
    It's a scam.

    And if it's not, what's to guarantee he'll send you the rest of the money? Are you prepared to sell the car for $30k? What recourse will you have if he's in London?

    Scam, scam, scam.
     
  9. lrattner

    lrattner Formula Junior

    Sep 15, 2004
    390
    Delray Beach, Fl
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    Dr. Lonnie Rattner
     
  10. DILLIGAF

    DILLIGAF Karting

    Mar 27, 2005
    134
    Shanghai/PRC
    G'Day,

    same scams as: http://www.scamorama.com

    regards, Dilligaf

    ps: ferrari F1 go-kart guy.... please refrain from sending your nasty emails / PM's ... we know quite well how to get them go-karts in Mainland China...!!!
     
  11. johng

    johng Formula 3

    Oct 23, 2004
    2,298
    northern va
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    john g
    i'm not responding to this guy. if he were legit, i doubt he would offer to buy without asking a single question about the car. all he asked for was my final price. come on, at least show some interest in the car! maybe i'll send him a 1/18 scale model :)

    john
     
  12. mystery

    mystery Formula Junior

    Apr 20, 2006
    296
    New Port Richey
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    Tina
    If he's serious about buying the car... he should fly HERE and inspect it HERE.. in which he can hand over your asking price then .. or he can wire it into an escrow account which cannot be touched by you until the the car is being shipped :) Just my opinion
     
  13. MedMech

    MedMech Karting

    Nov 2, 2003
    81
    turn it over to 419eater.com and watch the parade. Strangelove and I had a good time playing with a doofus selling a Dino.
     
  14. SoftwareDrone

    SoftwareDrone F1 Veteran
    Sponsor Owner

    Jan 19, 2004
    7,860
    San Jose, California
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    Mike
    A bit off topic, but a fun story nonetheless.
    I was corresponding with a gorgeous young Russian lady for a couple of months, or so I thought. Every time I asked for a picture I recieved one. The pictures were just "too good". This young lady told me that her name is "Pavo" but her friends all call her "Pavee". She eventually told me that if I didn't send her $200 that her internet service would be terminated and that we would no longer be able to correspond. So I called Western Union and was really ready to send the money (this was years ago, by the way). Since they were having trouble deciphering the address, the lady transferred me to an old Russian lady in Houston. When I told her the story, she told me that she knew this "guy" and that it was a scam! I thanked her (should have sent her flowers!) and got off the phone.
    I then sent "Pavee" an e-mail telling her that I sent the money and that she should go get it. I get a reply the next day, saying, "Oh my sweet Michael, I don't understand what is wrong. I drive 45 minutes one way and talked to the people at Western Union for 25 minutes and they just can't seem to find the money." So I wrote back and said, "My sweet Pavee, the money is really there, so go back and demand that you recieve your money!" Get a reply the next day, "My sweet Michael! I drive 45 minutes one way to Western Union and argue with them for 45 minutes and they still can't find the money!"
    My reply looked like this: "Now. How does it feel to be decieved? Now **** OFF!!!"
     
  15. -AC

    -AC Formula Junior
    BANNED

    Dec 4, 2004
    433
    Colorado
    This is a scam. My co-worker had the same thing happen to him. He received a cashier’s check and then called the bank to see if it was real. Nope was not real. So he reported it to the police who then turned it over to the Feds. The Feds told him this was very common and is one of the ways the terrorist are funding themselves. A guy shows up takes the car and the money in cash. Then they dump the car.

    The funny part was this was for a $900 van and he was supposed to give the extra $2k to the transport company to ship to Canada. lol
     
  16. redheadedstranger

    BANNED

    Nov 1, 2006
    65
    It's a scam. And don't attempt to string them along as detailed in other posts. Someone like me might be on the ther end and install a keylogger, or something even scarrier along the way.
    And please don't preach about firewalls. Even if your behind a PIX, your not as safe as you may think you are...

    Just ignore and move on.
     
  17. ITALOVER

    ITALOVER Karting

    Feb 26, 2006
    62
    MODESTO , CALIF.
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    MIKE
    Just tell him if he's interested , he'll have to fly out and meet with you in person. Pay you in cash , and he can fly back the next day and you'll ship accordinally .
     
  18. racespecferrari

    racespecferrari F1 Veteran

    Jan 31, 2006
    7,583
    Suffolk, Uk
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    Pete.G By The Sea

    Ha ha that is great, good on you :)
     
  19. tarzancoe

    tarzancoe Karting

    Oct 2, 2006
    102
    Orange County, CA
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    JM
    I agree, people do PPI's, endless questions and more. Scam.

     
  20. RaginBull

    RaginBull Formula Junior

    Oct 24, 2006
    996
    Bay Area, CA
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    Darryl
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  21. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

    May 21, 2005
    72,740
    Vegas+Alabama
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    Mr. Sideways

    Well, it's probably a scam, but on the other hand there are some eccentric buyers out there. If you want to follow through on the deal, ask your local, licensed Ferrari dealership if they will accept a fee from you (e.g. $2,000) to vet the buyer (e.g. through an affiliate Ferrari dealer in London) and handle the car transfer and financials.

    This gives you recourse against the Ferrari dealership for the car/money if something goes wrong, and if everything goes right then you get to sell your car now rather than waiting for a local buyer.

    This is how guns are sold long-distance (required by law anyway) and it seems to work reasonably well for weeding out the scammers (who seem to have less success scamming the licensed businesses).

    So, it's fine if you want to take the advice of everyone who says "run." No harm in playing it ultra-safe, but there are options available to you to make a long-distance transaction safe "within reason," too.
     

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