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  1. Albert-LP

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    #1 Albert-LP, Feb 23, 2022
    Hi everybody, I want to share this little moment of happiness under the Italian sun that I had yesterday, when I was driving my just purchased GTB turbo #80173 to Maranello, where it will be serviced at Toni shop.
    Nothing is better than relaxing with a pleasant trip to Maranello with your new Ferrari, in my opinion.

    Yes, you are right: there could be something else even better, but nothing you can post here... ;)

    Ciao!

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  2. nerofer

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    #2 nerofer, Feb 23, 2022
    ANOTHER Turbo, Alberto? A new one? Take care, or otherwise you might wake-up one day as an official car dealer...
    Great to see a bit of Maranello sun these days, we need it!

    Rgds
     
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  3. Albert-LP

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    #3 Albert-LP, Feb 23, 2022
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    Yes, Bruno: another!
    I sold my (excellent) former GTB turbo to an USA enthusiast few months ago and I couldn't resist without its boost anymore.

    I think this one I got is the only one 1988-89 sample that leaved the Factory without A/C and without ABS, so it's very light and handles very well, at least for my level of driving attitude: you can feel the weight difference immediately.

    Ciao
     
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  4. nerofer

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    #4 nerofer, Feb 23, 2022
    I must say I'm not surprised, it echoes what I've read at the time: the "revised suspension" (= "serie II") cars) were said at the time to handle slightly better than the "serie 1" cars, and if you take away more or less 65 lbs (= 30 kilos: 15 for the ABS and 15 for the A/C), that makes sense. I myself drove a "normally aspired" 328 GTB, série II, revised suspension, but without ABS and without A/C also, about 10 years ago, and it was hands-down the best of the lot, no question.

    Rgds
     
  5. Albert-LP

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    #5 Albert-LP, Feb 23, 2022
    The A/C system weights much more than 15 kg: there are the compressor, the compressor mounts, the pipes from the compressor to the condenser and to the evaporator, the condenser and the evaporator themselves. I never weighted them, but I would guess 30-40 kg for the A/C system and 15 kg for the ABS: the car is 50 kg lighter (110 lbs) or even more, almost as a passenger weight.

    ciao
     
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  6. nerofer

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    #6 nerofer, Feb 23, 2022
    "Simplify, and add only lightness"

    "Edward" (= Gustav) Heinemann,
    Chief designer, Douglas Aircraft, in the 1940 and 1950..
     
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  7. Dave Bertrand

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    #7 Dave Bertrand, Feb 23, 2022
    That's happiness? I was expecting a picture of you driving through the beautiful hills of Tuscany.
     
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  8. Albert-LP

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    #8 Albert-LP, Feb 23, 2022
    Maranello 46, Tuscany 10 (Chicago Bears - New England Patriots Superbowl final score, many years ago: there was no game.. ) ;)
     
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    #9 Dr Tommy Cosgrove, Feb 23, 2022
    Where do I click "love" instead of like?
     
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    #10 RodC328gts, Feb 23, 2022
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  11. Albert-LP

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    #11 Albert-LP, Feb 24, 2022
    You visited my friend Luca Fornetti shop, a great and famous shop in front of Ferrari historic gate.

    And only a Ferrari big enthusiast could drive through Maranello with an open-top Ferrari in January: well done!

    Ciao
     
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    #12 Albert-LP, Feb 24, 2022
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    The picture location, SS12 Abetone - Brennero, heading south leaving San Prospero village: this road connects Abetone pass, between Emilia Romagna and Tuscany, with Brenner pass, between Austria and Italy. Keeping this road, after 40 km you will see on the left the Ferrari historic gate.

    Ciao
     
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    #13 RodC328gts, Feb 24, 2022
    It was a beautiful day! qnd my first visit to Maranello. I need to see it.
     
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    #14 derekw, Feb 25, 2022
    I always thought it was Colin Chapman who first said simplify and add lightness. I just looked it up and it turns out it wasn’t Chapman or Heinemann but some guy called Gordon Hooton.
     
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    #15 RodC328gts, Feb 25, 2022
    Chapman’s quote “Adding power makes you faster on the straights; subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
     
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    #16 nerofer, Feb 26, 2022
    The quote usually attributed to Chapman is: "light is right".
    Heinemann definitively used "simplify, and add only lightness"; he had another one at the door of his office saying something to the tune of: "if your idea means less complication, less weight, more performance, come in: I would be glad to discuss it with you".
    I need a few days to find the reference, as I don't have all my books with me now, but I'll try to find it in a few days.

    Rgds
     
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  17. Albert-LP

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    #17 Albert-LP, Feb 26, 2022
    In my opinion that's an idea that many had before all those you all mentioned: we always remember something only when it was repeated by anyone very well known by everybody, but I do think that at least Mitsubishi A6M "Zero" fighter project leader Jiro Horikoshi shared that opinion much in advance... ;)

    Ciao
     
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  18. nerofer

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    #18 nerofer, Feb 26, 2022
    Indeed, and just for the record, the team he was leading was:

    Ing. Sone Yoshitoshi and Tojo Teruo, mathematics applications
    Ing. Yoshikawa Yoshio and Sone Yoshitoshi, structure
    Ing. Inoue Denichiro and Tanaka Shotaro, engine installation
    Ing. Hatakenaka Yoshimi, auxiliaries and armament installation
    Ing. Kato Sadahiko and Mori Takeyoshi, ancilliaries and landing gear.

    Well, back to the topic...
    Rgds
     
  19. Albert-LP

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    #19 Albert-LP, Feb 26, 2022
    You are amazing, Bruno... ;)

    Ciao
     
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    #20 RodC328gts, Feb 26, 2022
    I think the comment on my post was never heard around American muscle car manufacturers!
     
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    #21 4rePhill, Feb 26, 2022
    Are you sure you're Italian? - Those revs don't look very Italian to me! ;)

    Congratulations on the new purchase! :)
     
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  22. Albert-LP

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    #22 Albert-LP, Feb 26, 2022
    Speed limit 31 MPH in that place. ;)

    Ciao
     

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