I would Love To See Ferrari Do this

Porsche did it 2 years ago with a 997 GT3 RS mk2. AS i recall it had slicks, rollcage, bigger tank and other safety equipment but the engine, drivetrain etc were stock.

It did pretty well.

Edit : Here is the link

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/251863/chris_harris_at_the_ring_24_hours.html

I agree. I would love to see a 458 enter the race.

 

Haven't Aston given Dr Ulrich Bez a 'stock' car in which to compete for several recent years

 

I think it had an upgraded cooling system and racing brakes too. The Nissan also has upgraded brakes, big wing at the rear and fatter tyres.

The days of driving from home straight to the circuit are gone. Only in rallying is possible now.

 

You can make it happen

 

it would be a terrific event .. is there any reason why it hasn't been done before .. or simply a case of the manufacturers not wanting to embarrass themselves?

 

Too cool - along the lines of bringing back the philosophy of the Trans-Am series at its inception.

 

It would be great, I´d pay for watching it, but after a few laps probably the brakes would be on fire, the brake fluid boiling and the tires destroyed.

The Japanese TV program Best Motoring made a few Resistance races with stock cars at Tsukuba circuit (which is quite short) and some cars already had a hard time surviving a few dozen of laps. And I think that even those cars were not strictly stock.

 

Then again, I've run a stock Honda CRX with a half-million miles on it for 500+ laps with no budget to speak of, and more than surive, it finished in 6th place and still runs perfectly to this day. That's with street tires (Falken Azenis, 1 set finished the race), a bolt-in cage, brakes from an Integra, and worn-out suspension. I'll bet a manufacturer could make a street car survive just fine with minimal modification.

 

In order to compete a manufacturer would have to make some changes, but I think most could get away with just doing the following:

The roll cage, seats, and harnesses (and maybe a fire suppression system?).

Upgraded pads/rotors. Stock brakes will become useless pretty quickly and I sure as hell would want to be able to stop after a few laps.

Tires, as a street compound would degrade pretty fast at those temperatures.

Even guys who autocross make these changes.

Personally, I think this is a great idea. It would be great for enthusiasts who are running their own car and for manufacturers to throw down and use it as a marketing tool.

 

I love the idea!!!




PDG

 

Sure, but we´re talking 600 bhp cars around the Nurburgring, 24 hours non-stop.

I´m not an expert in tracking cars, but I think that a few minimal modifications would be needed. Racing pads and rotors (maybe they could be standard for all cars, to make it more interesting), with slicks (also only one manufacturer) and different suspension setup (I don´t know if the stock suspension components allow enough camber, etc... to make the tires work and last). Also maybe a few cooling upgrades would be necessary to not blow the engine and electronics.

Maybe this could work better in a shorter race format, only a few laps before the "real" race.

 

Somebody could just run a 458 Challenge, it's basically the stock drivetrain with all of the race prep done. Ferrari already makes 4 racing versions of the 458 (Challenge, GTC, GT3, Grand Am), so I doubt you'll see another one. It's not like they are having any trouble selling their cars, so what would be the point? If one wanted to make a go of it, it should be fairly easy to retrofit the minimum necessary Challenge parts to a stock 458 to make it track ready...

 

yes exactly.

They even drove it from the factory to the race and back

Stock all except safety equipment.

no upgraded brakes or cooling.

Because only Porsches are good enough to do it

13th after starting 42nd is not to shabby in my book.

 

See below - I meant cage, seat, fire suppression system etc. is all available from the Challenge car.

 

I think it would be fantastic!

 

All I meant was, if I can make a no-budget, half-million-mile Honda (not kidding) last through 500+ laps of hard wheel-to-wheel racing with nothing but gas, a little oil and driver changes, then I'm sure a manufacturer with a slightly higher budget can do the same with a brand new car. FWIW on our lightweight CRX, 6 tires actually lasted about 2.5 races and the brake pads (Hawk Blue) lasted 3 full races. That equals about 48 hours track time. Jim is right, street tires last a lot longer.

This would be seriously awesome, but what are the odds Ferrari will actually do it?

80% capacity + 115% sales = 0% chance

and that sucks, because it would be fabulous to see a real STOCK class run Nurburgring, not to mention Le Mans.