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Ideal RPM level?

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  1. mydas

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    I just read a post were the author wrote that he never drives his 360 below 3,500 RPMs. I tend to keep it below this level when driving down a street and there may be people who keep it much higher on a regular basis. What are the advantages/disadvantages of driving at a high RPM.....or a low RPM on a daily, consistent basis when using your 360 as a daily driver. Is there an ideal RPM range to drive in?
     
  2. Etcetera

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    19 to 20,000 RPM sounds about right.
     
  3. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Keeping it too high when not needed just wears it out faster. Too low too much isnt all that good either.

    All things in moderation.
     
  4. luckydynes

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    what's an ideal warm up rpm? . . . for those of use that don't have the stock engine controls :)
     
  5. zippyslug31

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    Seem to recall the owners manual stating not to exceed 4k until oil temp rised above x degrees.
     
  6. zippyslug31

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    How'd you quanify 'too low'? Not so low that you are bogging the car along, for sure, but what are we talking about.... above say 2k? Maybe 3k?
     
  7. smg2

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    ideal would be based on EGT's but then you'd have to have 8 individual gauges and run with the average and that would also be dictated by the speed and style. I personally stay in around the 2.5~3k range when not pushing the car otherwise it's watch the needle swing!
     
  8. FandLcars

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    Not sure, but can't you get EGTs with OBDII software?
     
  9. thecarreaper

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    small euro engined cars seem to like 2200 to 2500 for normal street driving. too low, and you are out of the power band and your oil and water are not circulating as well. too high, and you will annoy people, and wear things out faster.

    there must be a balance! :cool:
     
  10. Rifledriver

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    Great for a turbine or a 2 stroke. No need in a car.
     
  11. Rifledriver

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    Motors all make different HP at different RPM. If the car is under little load no need to be over 2-2500. If you need power bring it up to 4000. If you need a lot of power 6-8500. Cruising down the street at 30mph at 3500rpm in a modern fuel injected car is just using it up.
     
  12. Frari

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    Agree totally with this. I had a Maserati bi turbo auto and the gearing was too low. On the highway at 120kph it was revving at 4500 rpm, every time I went on a long trip i felt sorry for the engine in not having a fourth gear or an overdrive. Driving at nothing under 3500 rpm is a waste of fuel and engine life and requires no real driving skill. My thoughts are that unless you require quick acceleration then correct matching of revs to speed will increase fuel economy greatly and prolong engine life. But don't forget these cars need regular Italian tune ups......
     
  13. mydas

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    Great information. All makes sense. What about driving up a lengthy hill? You would seem to need more power to get up a steep incline, but the RPMs are very high in low gears. If you go to a higher gear, the RPMs are reduced and the engine appears to be under less strain while still having little trouble getting up the hill. Therefore, should you go up hills....lengthy ones...at a higher gear to reduce engine wear?
     
  14. irondogmike

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    I never let it drop below 2500rpm's,if it drops then I drop in the next gear to get those r'sssssss up,letting the engine to bogg down and jurk,well thats not good either
     
  15. Artvonne

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    Its like riding a 10 speed bike. When your going up a hill in too high a gear, your legs get slow and you have to exert a great deal of energy but your not moving very fast. This is called lugging and your engine absolutely does not like it. Your legs also dont like going too fast, its called over revving and your feet can fly off the pedals. Do it with your car and your engine can explode.
     
  16. Rifledriver

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    A 308 is a very different situation from a 360. The question was about a 360.
     
  17. irondogmike

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    I'm sorry,I'm bad! have a great weekend I'm off to a **********,and waited all week to drive the qv,enjoy everyone :):)
     
  18. Modeler

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    If we had ideal it'd be fixed rev engines with variable ratio transmissions controlling speed.

    Pre 1915 when all the automotive design was really done materials technology couldn't provide the friction / wear rates needed. So some early dev work was done but they settled for throttling the engine combined with sets of fixed ratios. All the pioneers knew how poor a design compromise it was but had little choice.
    By the time materials tech had advanced sufficiently a generation of drivers existed who wouldn't accept such a radical shift in how cars "should work".

    Ferrari could build it today but without those magnificent sounds rising and falling most here would resist it fiercely.

    Funny old world sometimes.
     

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