If current gen cars had proper engines (video)

F1 2017 Mercedes with V10 engine sound! Sounds awesome!





F1 2017 - PURE V10 SOUND - Silverstone - Hamilton Onboard

 

V12 NA would be better but I'll take it anyday over the V6 turbo

 

Even our friend Lewis agrees!!!!

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/hamilton-wants-f1-cars-to-go-back-to-loud-v12-engines-with-manual-gearboxes/

 

Lol this is a reoccuring theme of yours.

You said it yourself, "most manufacturers wouldn't like it".

So who would built these marvellous engines, and make any profit ?

 

Well Lewis has a few bucks stashed away, perhaps he could fund the new formula? Call it Formula Lew or FLew.
Bas have your people contact his people!

 

Impressive list, but Ferrari is a constructor, not an engine builder only.

Some of them are only building engines they haven't designed others are not much active anymore, but never mind ...

But try to be realistic for once. Has a return to V22 NA been ever considered during the last conference ? Has anyone even mentioned it? Who would propose it ? I don't think the idea is a starter frankly, even it it's one of your dreams.

 

Mecachrome is subcontracting for Renault.
Gibson is using a Nissan design.
Cosworth, etc ....
None oft hem has shown any intention, proposed any design, or lobbied the FIA for the adoption of a V12 NA formula.

It seems to me, that the FIA has moved with the time, and has no intention to go back to past eras. Some nostalgics are asking for a return to past technology , but that is not echoed by the partciipants. As far as I am aware, and you may know different, no company attending the last FIA round table asked to abandon the hybrid engines, to go back to atmo V12.

This discussion reminds me of the resistance from the steam buffs when the railway was electrified, circa 1960s, that was also a rearguard battle.

 

I am a realist, not an idealist.

 

Come on, this is F1. I'm sure they can engineer and audio enhancement unit on the car that is programmed to replicate the v12 sound. A speaker and amp unit could be engineered to be a light weight. You can even change the software to replicate v12, v10, or v8s from race to race.

 

Or the "alien" warble from Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds".

 

lol, the goal is not specifically to increase the number of engine builders, although that might be a bonus.

 

It's a constructor's series.

Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday.

(E.g. Indycar: Chevy vs Honda. You think either of them are making a profit on selling Indycar engines?)

 

Bas proposes engine builders that don't sell cars.

Constructor doesn't mean car manufacturer.

 

Why not, it would add variety to a dull grid. The current engine technical regulations prohibits such enterprise. I could tell you which engine was approaching in the golden days, now i cannot tell the difference between a blow fly or a V6,
Tony

 

What @Bas is proposing is for an F1 series strictly regulated to NA ICE units AND an F1 supremo to dictate such formula. Redbull would immediately jump on board....possibly Ferrari.

Horner wants louder engines by 2025 under the current F1 platform.....understandable....but unfortunately Redbull doesn't dictate the global perspective from an automobile platform.

The delima is the European car manufacturers like Mercedes, Renault, Porsche and/or Audi whom all want to leave a ZERO carbon footprint from a global perspective since the EU community wants to go fully electric by 2030(???).

So currently and going forward we F1 enthusiasts better enjoy F1 in it's current form as these hybrid platforms will morph into something else. Btw, there's already an LMP1 car using hydrogen technology.

 

Honestly the NA ICE stands no chance; it's the least efficient power unit.

 

Yes it is from a global perspective with regards to V10's or V12's and major European car manufacturers.

BUT engine manufacturers like Cosworth and others aren't looking at the zero carbon footprint ideology for billions of people.