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If Hamilton didn't win his first title to date. **Spoilers**

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  1. tifosi12

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    Hami's answer: his helmet carries a picture of Bob Marley

    No woman, no cry.

    The guy has a sense of humor.
     
  2. texasmr2

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    I noticed that aswell.
     
  3. 4rePhill

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    Agreed! (but I don't believe he's not been crying really! ;) )
     
  4. pamparius

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    #54 pamparius, Oct 29, 2011
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    the german reporters said it was his last try to get her back. and that he thought of it / ordered it way before the split up.
    "one love" is written on the helmet.
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  5. tifosi12

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    Ah, thanks for that insight.

    I have to say the more I get to see her personality on X-factor the less appealing she becomes. She is pretty but that's about it.
     
  6. 4rePhill

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    No!, that's just to tell her that at the end of the day, McLaren and F1 is his one love! :)
     
  7. 4rePhill

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX5tfRdkoY0&feature=related[/ame]
     
  8. mcimino

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    Can't wait to hear Whitmarsh's take on this one... another "inspired drive"? I don't agree that Massa should have been penalized..I would suspect he was more focused on his race line going into the corner than his mirror.
     
  9. texasmr2

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    The replay clearly showed Massa checking both mirror's so in this incident I put the blame on Massa: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG--SwDGskc[/ame]
     
  10. Etcetera

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    Yeah, Massa's error.

    Beyond that, they've been baiting each other nearly all season and having frequent shunts because they can't stand each other and won't give each other an inch on the track.

    They're both driving like yobs.
     
  11. mcimino

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    I must have missed that new regulation...when a driver sees Hamilton in their mirror they should immediatly pull over and let him by because he deserves the right of way. Everyone else should forget that they're actually in a racing situation.
     
  12. fluque

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    Massa is to blame for sure but it looks more like pay back to LH. If LH continues with his driving style this is what he will get in return from Massa or other drivers.
     
  13. tifosi12

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    You also missed another regulation: Dont give away racing results in a thread without spoilers.
     
  14. mcimino

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    #64 mcimino, Oct 30, 2011
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    Lets say you're doing about 180mph and your lining up your apex... at that speed are you suppose to change your line in the middle of the turn to let someone behind pass you? Maybe Hamilton should have realized the door was closing on him and he should have backed off, rather than just plow into Massa like he did. I'm sorry. Hamilton just continues to prove how reckless he can be... sure he's capable of some stellar passes, I'll give him that, but he's got to realize he's not the only racer on the track and everyone is not obliged to move over just for him.
     
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    #65 fluque, Oct 30, 2011
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    Massa saw and knew well LH was coming on the inside. At that point it was Massa´s decision to give room or collide. He chose the later IMO because of the previous incidents with LH.

    I agree that LH has been reckless and this is exactly why Massa was not going to give in. Race tracks are no different than playgrounds in this respect. Stand up to the bully if you want respect.

    LH seems at an all time low in terms of confidence, especially with Button doing so well.
     
  16. werewolf

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    i agree.

    A driver on the racing line has zero obligation to move over and allow a pass. It doesn't matter if the guy behind is "coming up real fast", and it doesn't matter if the driver behind is "well known" to take unnecessary risk.

    The only question is, was Massa on the racing line, moving towards the apex? If so, it was Hamilton's duty to avoid contact ... not Massa's.
     
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    :)
     
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    Guys there is a thread dedicated to the race today, please dont put spoilers in other threads thanks.
     
  19. werewolf

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    done :)

    This thread title does indicate **spoilers**, so i thought there was little harm :(

    But i have obliged :)
     
  20. 4rePhill

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    The "**spoilers**" part of the title has just been added due to the thread content that is now in, it I believe.
     
  21. tifosi12

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    Yup. I alerted the F1 mods since mcimino blatantly ignored the rules.
     
  22. TheMayor

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    #72 TheMayor, Oct 30, 2011
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    I'm more impressed with Vettel's form than Hamilton's lack of form.

    To me, this is what grates Hamilton. But, I don't blame him. If you aren't a competitive type, you won't make a great racing driver.

    Let's face it: Hamilton has had a poor year and Vettel one of the best ever. There were a ton of ways Vettel could have screwed up this year and didn't. You got to hand it to the kid -- he's got his game on every weekend.
     
  23. werewolf

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    gotcha. my bad :(
     
  24. 4rePhill

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    Trouble with Vettel is that he's a Casey Stoner. Races off the line, gets a big early gap while the rest get to grips with the cold tyres and then the next thing you see about him is he's crossing the finish line (similar to how Schumacher did it a lot of the time at Ferrari TBH). He's not had to race wheel to wheel with other drivers all season.

    Vettel gets a lot of credit when he performs the (rare) occasional overtake (such as his overtake of Alonso at Monza), but for Me the jury is out until he starts having to win races from @ 6th~8th on the grid like Hamilton can.

    Hamilton's biggest problem is that he has allowed his private life to affect his driving too much this season. Next season he'll be a much bigger threat because he'll concentrate on the racing.
     
  25. bill365

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    #75 bill365, Oct 30, 2011
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    IMO, Either F1 is moving much closer to NASCRAP, by implementation of a bumper-cars based rules/trophy system or loo was totally at fault again.

    Never being even halfway beside Massa, IMO, LH braked hard, knowing he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and imo, demonstrating the knowledge that he could never have maintained that line at that speed through the turn. It is common, for a driver who is attempting to gain a position, to pressure a driver into an error, but this was way beyond that.

    To me, it looked almost exactly like many of his other ill-considered moves...

    Let's see... LH so far this season...
    Malaysian GP: Picks up drive-through penalty for making more than one change of direction to defend position and unsuitable driving (1)
    Monaco GP: Given two drive-through penalties for clashes with Pastor Maldonado and Felipe Massa (2 & 3)
    Canadian GP: Collides with Mark Webber and team-mate Jenson Button, the latter incident forcing him to retire (4 & 5)
    Hungarian GP : He sent Paul di Resta onto the grass and received a drive-through penalty
    Belgian GP: Bangs wheels with Maldonado in qualifying, then hits Kamui Kobayashi in the race, sending his McLaren flying into the barrier (6 & 7)
    Singapore GP: Has minor brush with Massa in qualifying before colliding with the Brazilian in the race (8 & 9)
    India GP: Assessed a start grid penalty for ignoring a yellow flag in qualifying, then Collides with Massa in turn five, with Massa given a drive-through (10 & 11)

    2010:
    Australian GP: collides with Mark Webber
    Malaysian GP: given a warning during the race, after he weaved four times to prevent Petrov passing
    Italian GP: involved in a pit lane incident with Red Bull driver Sebastian Vettel
    Singapore GP: crashed with Mark Webber

    I know I haven't got them all here, but I do not remember any GP driver to be involved in as many incidents.
     

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