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If you have a 3X8 with aluminum pedals please read!

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  1. donald

    donald Karting

    Aug 11, 2004
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    I want to install the aluminum pedal set from Hill engineering. The only thing I am worried about is losing legroom if the pedals are thicker since it appears they go over the existing pedal. I am 6'2 and just fit in my 328 GTS now!

    Can anyone shed some light on this subject? I searched the archives with no luck. THANKS!
     
  2. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The metal pedal covers replace the existing rubber pedal covers on the clutch and brake (which are about the same thickness) so no real change in butt-to-pedal surface distance for those. On the acc. pedal it does, but I've never really noticed a (negative) difference (I'm 6'3" for reference).
     
  3. 348 Turbo

    348 Turbo Formula 3

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    Donald,
    Go for it. I've installelled these in my 348. There isn't a noticable difference in space taken for leg room. You'll be pleased with the quality of Hill Engineering products.
    Jeff
     
  4. donald

    donald Karting

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    Thanks guys! How difficult was the installation? Did you find that the Hill kit included everything you needed (besides the tools)?
     
  5. Mike C

    Mike C F1 Veteran
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    Hill Eng's are good, but you might also look at the sets from www.ultimatepedals.com/pedal.htm

    They're a Ferrari Club sponsor... that's what I've got in my 308QV and have more finish abd shape options, custom engraving and nice attachment hardware.
     
  6. rivee

    rivee F1 Rookie

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    I installed all the pedals except the accelerator because of the leg room issue.

    Of course I have Corbeau seats installed which shortened the leg room as well
     
  7. 348paul

    348paul Formula 3

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    #7 348paul, Dec 1, 2004
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    Don,

    As Steve says, the aluminium pedals are replaced by the rubber pads so the difference in "butt to pedal" :) is hardly noticeable - maybe 1-2mm at the most.

    And just to clarify Mike's wholeheartedly support for Hill Engineering Pedals :) we also supply the pedals in various designs, finishes, custom engraving and also have a most superb attachment hardware :) (We also manufacture Titanium Pedals)

    On the subject of quality, we have been supplying motor sport & F1 racing teams with super precision components for many years (working down to tolerances as low as 3 microns) – so you know you will be receiving a top quality part and of course we have a money back guarantee – over 750 sets sold so far and not one returned!

    Don - The pedals that we sell, come with all the necessary fixings and a "fully" illustrated installation guide to make the fitting of our pedals only a relatively simple job. I have attached the pdf file of the pedal install & if you need to ask any more questions – feel free to ask.

    Cheers

    Paul
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  8. Philjay50

    Philjay50 Formula Junior

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    I have just ordered mine as a Pressy to myself, can't wait, I think they look great !
     
  9. chenshan

    chenshan Karting

    Jul 28, 2004
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    I already put all of them for weeks. They not only look great but also work fine. It will take a little time to make holes and screw they in but it won't be too difficult.
     
  10. Tifoso1

    Tifoso1 F1 Rookie

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    I have often wondered, what is the advantage that alumium pedal offers over the OEM rubber? Do they offer better grip? In competition cars, the pedals are alumium to save weight, but in this case, the alumium pedals are placed over the OEM metal pedal, so I am assuming that there is no weight advantage. Am I correct to say that this is done mostly for cosmetic reasons?
     
  11. tesseract

    tesseract Karting

    Dec 24, 2003
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    Paul,

    Are you still doing the December special you mentioned awhile back?
     
  12. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Anthony -- I think you're generally right about cosmetics being the more dominant factor (but not only for just looking way better always, but for not showing wear/degradation with use as much as the stock stuff -- esp. on the acc. pedal). One point I'd make is that usually in the photos, things look more harsh than they really are due to the flash (i.e., the flash shows things in the footwell background with a clarity that you normally don't see -- in the flesh, under normal lighting conditions, they look even better ;)).

    Maybe this is just like the "butt-dyno" opinion, but IMO they do feel less vague (maybe especially if the rubber ones have really come unglued a little from the sub-pedal). One problem is that you never really get a chance to go back and forth many times between the two set-ups for comparison, but I've never regretted getting (and using!) Ti sets (and because it's part of the driver interface you get to enjoy them both visually during ingress and in use).
     
  13. BigAl

    BigAl F1 Veteran

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    They REALLY dress up the interior. I'll do pedals and shift knob like in Steve's photo.
     
  14. 348paul

    348paul Formula 3

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    Jeff,

    Indeed - Just need a PM from people to confirm that they are Rosso/Silver Subscribed and we will send out the dead pedal free with any order of our pedals (PS01 etc)! (Excluding LHD 360)

    Paul

    http://www.customferrariparts.com/homemainferrari.htm
     
  15. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Can you get a Black finish???

    I like the idea for both traction and long term wear, but all that 'bling' is tough on my old eyeballs!


    TIA
     
  16. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    BigTex -- That's what I meant about the flash used in the photos not really giving a good representation of the normal appearance -- they don't look that blingy in real life (especially if you don't add the dead pedal cover). The Ti ones are a little darker grey than the Al ones, but I'd guess that any surface coating to give a black appearance (even a hard anodize on the Al) would get worn off in spots eventually.
     
  17. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Where's my Krylon??????? LOL!

    Thanks!
     
  18. Mike C

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    Great to know! I had looked at your website again before I posted that, but I didn't find any examples of different finishes.
     
  19. 348paul

    348paul Formula 3

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    #19 348paul, Dec 1, 2004
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    From the site:
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    All pedals come in a standard "Bright" finish but all can be supplied in a "satin" finish (as shown in the picture of the PS04 below)
    ****

    The website has admittedly outgrown itself as when we first started we were only producing a handful of parts. It is actually being revamped as we speak with even a greater selection of pictures and designs including specials as well. Here is one of the latest creations for a fellow F-chat member in the US.
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  20. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    Regarding installation -

    Yeah, it's "straightfoward" -- but it's not easy on the arms. Get some BRAND NEW drill bits because those OEM pedals are unbelievably hard. They are made of kryptonite or something.

    I used a little piece of scrap wood behind the pedal to keep it steady while I drilled. I also used a little masking tape on the pedals to keep the bit from sliding around when I started up the drill.
     
  21. TTG

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    Here is one of the latest creations for a fellow F-chat member in the US.[/QUOTE]


    Can't wait to receive the custom footplate Paul...You DA MAN!! Why can't all Ferrari sales/suppliers be as cool as Paul?...I know, that would take a miracle!

    Cheers,

    Todd
     
  22. dapper

    dapper Formula Junior

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    Donald,

    I also installed a set of the Hill Engrg pedals in my 348 last summer. the kit is concise with all required fittings and the job is simple if you take your time and care. Like previous posters I used masking tape on the pedal proper to prevent drill slip and a suitable length block of wood under the pedal when drilling each. I started with a small drill bit and progressively increased until suitable size for bolts (that pedal material seemed damned hard for plain old steel!).

    Also agree that in the flesh so to speak the pedals do not look at all 'blingy' and tie in well if you have an aluminium (sory aluminum) gear knob.
     
  23. gdbsti

    gdbsti Formula Junior

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    Just a word of caution with regards to Aluminum pedals. They can definetly dress up the interior of your car, but smooth finished pedals are very slippery when wet. If we had to install aluminum pedals in the race cars we would always grip tape them for this very reason. Some pedals have the rubber divets which really helps this problem. Be Safe!
     
  24. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ
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    Huh? The Hill pedals have a WONDERFUL drilled texture surface for exactly this reason. If your foots slips on a Hill pedal, you're gonna surely shred your shoes! Driving barefoot is impossible with these pedals cause it's like have a huge pumice stone ripping your foot to scraps.


    They are sticky, grippy pedals.


    -Daniel
     
  25. gdbsti

    gdbsti Formula Junior

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    I have nothing against Hills products. Just pointing out that "smooth finished pedals" can be "slippery when wet".
     

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