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Ignition timing - Carb+ Single Distributor 308

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  1. Jack.pe

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    Hey all, have researched this but found many different answers. Am I right in saying that timing should be around 10 degrees at idle and then 34 at 5000rpm?
    Car is a 1980 build, single distributor, carburettor.

    Thanks!!
     
  2. Ferrari Tech

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    That sounds about right. Today's gas and carbs tend to want a little different tune, sometimes an idle jet change helps.
    Making sure the distributor advance is working properly is a must. That takes a distributor testing machine. I use a restored Sun machine (1972) to set up and test distributors. Getting the distributor to return the advance is important. It will high idle if the weights are not letting the advance come back down. That is where the distributor machine saves a lot of time.
     
  3. Steve Magnusson

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  4. thorn

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    Steve,

    I don't understand the math/designation of "16*30" and "2*14". I'm sure it's not actually math (ie, 480 and 28 degrees, respectively), but - how is that interpreted?
     
  5. Steve Magnusson

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    #5 Steve Magnusson, Apr 30, 2020
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    The scan isn't great (and the degree symbol is placed a little low), but that's actually "16 degrees 30 arc minutes" in the Ferrari table = the distributor advance is 16.5 distributor degrees at 3000 RPM of the distributor = adds 33 degrees of crankshaft advance to the engine at 6000 crankshaft RPM -- so the total crankshaft advance at 6000 crankshaft RPM is 6+33 = 39 degrees BTDC.

    By the 2*14, I was trying to say "two times fourteen degrees advance of the distributor = 28 degrees advance at the crankshaft". The distributor advance is 14 distributor degrees at 2500 RPM of the distributor (from the graph on page 74) so the total crankshaft advance at 5000 crankshaft RPM is (6+28) = 34 degrees BTDC
     
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  6. thorn

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    Aha. That makes it far more clear. Thanks! :)
     

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