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Imola...05 Anyone else notice an erie similarity to 94? I hope I'm wrong

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  1. racerx3317

    racerx3317 F1 Veteran

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    Just something that popped into my mind when i got bored but is anyone else noticing a few similarites between 05 and 94? A world champion and world championship favorite way behind in points to his heir apparent. I hope the GP goes off without a hitch this weekend. Nuff said...........
     
  2. tifosi12

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    Pete and I had the same thought in here:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55645&page=2&pp=20

    I just read an interview with MS and he commented on the WC situation: He said Alonso now has the title in his head and therefore has to drive conservatively whereas he (MS) has nothing to loose and will go flat out and take bigger risks.

    Hmm...
     
  3. senna21

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    Cars and tracks are much safer now. I do think Senna and MS share the same aggression on track though.

    It's a big weekend for Ferrari and Italy. A new German Pope, and Ferrari with a German pilot looking to reclaim their position in the eyes of the world. They’ll have a lot of momentum behind them in their home GP. JT will be fighting hard for a chance to stand on the top podium in his home country. The Italians could have a lot to celebrate by Sunday night.
     
  4. CRG125

    CRG125 F1 Rookie

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    But remember, Senna got scared the minute Ratzenberger died and Barrichello's horrific crash. I really never saw F1 when Senna was competing. From what I heard prior to Senna's death, no one had died for 10 years and it freaked Senna out because it was his first time seeing it. Schumacher has seen the worst from Senna dying to his own crash which could of killed him. The great thing about Schumacher, is no matter how bad the situation is, he always finds a solution. We have all seen him get beat pretty bad from his oppentents and we have seen Micheal fall apart. But never has it affect his confidence and ability to win. This is why I think Micheal is the best driver ever.
     
  5. racerx3317

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    It is a valid point but as i stated in another post I think the other accidents of the weekend didn't effect Senna in the cockpit. From all accounts he could be complete pissed off and cursing on the radio but still driving at his best. They did have an effect on him outside of the car no doubt. The lap before he went off was 3rd fastest of the race and set on full tanks. Hill and MS set thier faster times on light tanks (no refueling then). The car failed him that's pretty much all it was and he had the bad luck of getting hit with a broken suspension rod. It apparently went though the visor opening on his helmet. Another little known fact is according to some reports, MS hired a car while in Brazil some year, had it take him to Senna's grave and stood with tears streaming down his face. I think at MS's age now if a similar thing were to happen he's freak out. I still remember watching that damned race and think what the hell else can happen. This was before the news that Senna had died. I also remeber thinking how empty the season was afterwards. Just a horrible weekend.
     
  6. tifosi12

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    I was shaken up badly too when Senna died and it was a lowpoint of F1. But the season thereafter for me was everything but empty. One of the best of all times. Just think about all the weird stuff that happened thereafter: Wendlinger, the Hockenheim fire, the tank scandal, Schummel-Schumi, the plank scandal, the battle with Hill, the suspension of MS and the KO finale in Australia.

    Senna was terribly missed, no doubt. But that year was one of the most dramatic in F1 ever. A long cry from any season we have seen this century so far. I *HIGHLY* recommend Steve Matchett's book "Life in the fast lane" in which he recounts that year from his unique perspective as a Benetton mechanic. One of the best books about F1 in general and coincidentally one of the most dramatic years to be described ever. A MUST read. Trust me.
     
  7. racerx3317

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    So was I. Funny the way life works but before 94 i was a fan of Prost. I only started to realise how good Senna was afterwards and became a fan of his as well. Those first few races I didn't even wanna watch. As the season wore on it got really interesting but still there was something missing. The last race was good too, but interestingly enough if Hill had backed off and not attacked MS he would have been world champ that year.
     
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    I was always a Prost fan, hence I couldn't be a Senna fan (but that doesn't mean I didn't have the highest respect for the man). Obviously I cheered every time the underdog MS beat Senna. I even raised my fist when Senna went straight out in Tamburello, but I didn't yell as I immediately realized that this was not going to be a good day.

    Hill didn't deserve to win the title that year. The FIA played too many dirty games to keep the championship artificially interesting by suspending MS. It was a miracle he won it despite all their intrigues. Point in case: Suspending him for the accidental plank wear at Spa was ludicrous when everbody could clearly see that the cerrated kerbs caught the wood.

    BTW: "Racers" is another good book about the year Hill did win the title. I never cared much for Hill, but that book makes him more sympathetic. Not a must read, but still a good book.
     
  9. racerx3317

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    I guess i'm abnormal cause i like them both. As far as who's better i won't even get into it cause the debate would never end. Senna was probably faster but Prost smarter. The FIA did play stupid games that year but if there was traction control on the car then it was illegal. Senna seemed to notice how sure footed the Benneton seemed that year and as further proof Schu was always not the greatest starter and still isn't but that year he seemed to improve greatly. Temporarily anyway, lol. Hill i think has gotten the short end of the stick in many ways. I think given the circumstances he did an excellent job. He was never meant to be a number one driver. 94 was only his second full season and he had a lot to deal with. Somehow he ends up being the one taking the fight to schu and did fairly well. He was more than a match for him on occasion and if he got into the lead he was usually gone. Much more so than schu back then who tended to go off a lot while under no pressure. All this and he only got into F1 when he was thirty after racing motorbikes in his youth. Quite exceptional i think.
     
  10. tifosi12

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    Hill was your typical test driver: Very fast and very analytical, but lame in traffic. When in front, he was hard to catch, when in midfield, he didn't know how to pass and ended up in collisions.

    I was neutral to Hill until he retired where he thought he had to bad mouth Schumacher and others. That's when I got tired of him.
     
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    Tamburello is much slower now - we shouldnt be having fatal accidents anymore...
     
  12. tifosi12

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    Remember Diniz in the Sauber at Nuerburgring? It doesn't take much speed to have a (nearly) fatal accident. Getting airborne over a tire and coming down sunny side first could do the trick.
     
  13. racerx3317

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    Racing will never be totally safe, Im sure they thought that in 94 too.
     
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    True, he wasn't the smoothest passer since John Elway but that could be chalked up to his limited experience. As far as everything else goes I'm sure there are many who have some nasty things to say about MS, Most just choose to keep it to themselves.
     
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    I have to admit, Imola 94 and 05 have something in common. MS having a tough start just like Senna did.
    It freaks me out.

    Hope MS isn't thinking of that.
     
  16. racerx3317

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    I'm sure it's crossed his mind
     

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