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IMPERFECT 456 GT for sale

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  1. gsbarr

    gsbarr Karting

    Feb 23, 2005
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    #1 gsbarr, Jul 15, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    1995 FERRARI 456 GT (ZFFSP44A0S0100778) Rosso Barchetta, Tan Interior, $94,500.
    It's not perfect, concours, or showroom, but it is a beauty. A head turner at every corner. Most of you, gathered from my inquisitiveness over the years, have never driven a 456. I never did either until a couple of years ago. When I was shopping for my first Ferrari, a 328, in the nineties, the 456 arrived at the dealer. I remember thinking that is was one beautiful looking car. Of course it came with a new unthinkable price tag. Over the years I found that they were very scarce at FCA events, Pebble Beach, Amelia Island and Cavallino Classic events that we attended. Many years later I ran across one getting serviced and the desire was reignited. I decided to look for one. After a several month search I bought one and then another. That is a story for another time and I'd be happy to share it with anyone that is interested in this car and wants to hear it.
    Back to this car. It's 21 years old and it has some cosmetic flaws, but not many. There are some light swirl marks on the hood I'm not happy with, but not bad enough to worry about. Clear bra on the front half of hood and mirrors. I am picky with the looks and mechanicals on my cars and there is nothing cosmetically that bothers me. The paint is very good to excellent as well as the interior. People follow me into parking lots and gas stations just to admire it or ask questions. Over the last couple of years I have sorted it out to my satisfaction, including the following list:

    New Interstate Battery
    Complete Major Service, including timing belts, December, 2015
    Radiator removed and flushed
    Water pump replaced
    New thermostat
    Motor mounts replaced
    New coolant temperature sender
    A/C recharged
    Replaced Valve Cover Gaskets
    Replaced Cam Shaft O Rings
    Replaced Timing Belt Tensioners with updated 550/575 version
    Replaced Various Radiator/Coolant hoses
    Replaced Fuel Pressure Regulators
    Removed 19" Modular style wheels (see pictures of car before wheel removal)and replaced with Original 456 wheels and 4 new Continental tires.

    As I suggested in the beginning, most of you have never sat in one, maybe never have even seen one and probably have never driven one. Let me tell you, they are nice and this one puts a smile on your face. This one, being a GT is a 6 speed. It runs like a Ferrari and the exhaust sound is all Ferrari. Acceleration is as much as you want. It's a rocket. At highway speeds the exhaust note calms down to a low drone allowing easy conversation or CD/Radio enjoyment. Comfort is a premium. Unlike many Ferraris, especially our 8 cylinder brethren, you can travel all day in this car or get in and out of it easily on errand day. I am not going to tell you that you will never have any issues. It's a Ferrari. But the main problem areas in 456's that I am aware of are valves, windows, sticky parts and dash shrinkage. There are probably more, that fortunately, I am not aware of. This car has none of those issues because they either never happened or they have been addressed.

    This car has 53,000 miles. Now this turns a lot of Ferrari buyers off, but not all. Many in the know appreciate higher mileage Ferraris because they have been sorted out over the years, potential problems peculiar to that model have been addressed, and they have been serviced regularly in order to keep them on the road for a longer period of time. A well known Ferrari tech showed me a 328 in his stable that had 72,000 miles and he said it was the best driving 328 he had ever been in. This from a person who would know. Lower mileage Ferraris that are rarely driven often demand higher prices, but sometimes delayed or ignored service can make them less desirable drivers until the car is well sorted as parts age even if the car is not driven over its life. I have three "high" mileage Ferraris, as well as other brands and I enjoy driving all of them. I am fortunate that they have been well cared for. The 456 comes with two sets of keys, Owners Manual, Tool Set, Luggage, Original Window Sticker, and an extra set of 19" modular style larger wheels (see pictures).

    It's a longer story as I referred to previously, but I have several Ferraris, including this 456 and another 456. I have a couple of other sports cars and daily drivers as well. In order to give them the garage space and the road time that they deserve, I drive my cars, something has to go and this 456 is one of them. If I didn't have another 456 I would definitely be keeping this car.

    I have struggled with coming up with a price. I definitely would like to at least make back what I bought it for and what I have put into it, plus a little more for the effort. Since relatively few are for sale, it's hard to come up with comparisons as I see prices from $60,000 to $150,000. I've decided to post it at $94,500. I have read Ferrari Chat for many years, read it often and have learned a lot. Although I don't do a lot of posting, I have gotten to "know" many of the regulars. I appreciate the opinions as most of the time they are presented in an honest fashion. If any of you would like to comment, critique or have any suggestions, on my description of the vehicle, the price, or anything else, I would welcome your comments.

    Thanks and sorry for the long drawn out description, but I am passionate about this car and I felt it deserved it. I welcome inspections. The car is located in Texas. Best ways to reach me are cell, 830 608-4312, PM, or email, [email protected]
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  2. vt3

    vt3 Rookie

    Mar 31, 2016
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    Rochester, NY
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    Van Travis
    Stunningly beautiful!!!


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  3. ferrarisun

    ferrarisun Formula Junior

    Feb 13, 2011
    960
    A beautiful GT road car. To borrow a phrase from the Jaguar sales department; " made to cover a lot of miles with grace, space, and pace".
     
  4. ixlr8

    ixlr8 Formula Junior

    Aug 24, 2015
    354
    Eastern Shore- Virginia
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    Jim
    Beautiful car, I have driven a 456 and if I hadn't recently purchased a 550 I would be contacting you. I don't have room for any more cars. :( GLWS
     
  5. Il Tifoso

    Il Tifoso Formula 3
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2013
    1,644
    SF Bay Area, CA
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    Ruben
    Beautiful... GLWS,

    Ruben
     
  6. slownrusty

    slownrusty Formula Junior

    Oct 1, 2014
    395
    Houston
    Full Name:
    Slow Rusty
    Awesome machine, really like the color and the aftermarket wheels. Nice to see a third pedal car for sale.

    GLWS and your ad has a nice "human" touch to it..thank-you for making it enjoyable to read.

    Y
     
  7. abilliet

    abilliet Formula Junior

    Dec 5, 2006
    403
    Sydney
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    Antony Billiet
    Great summary of a great model Ferrari
     
  8. BladeMD

    BladeMD Formula 3
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 20, 2015
    1,140
    Sarasota, FL
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    Hannibal
    There is a funky awesomeness to the 456.... Some angles it's gorgeous, others make you think twice. Regardless it's one of my favorite 4-seaters.

    Love the interior on this one, and the extra pedal! Looks like you've taken good care of it.

    GLWS
     
  9. cf355

    cf355 F1 Rookie

    Feb 28, 2005
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    chris
    nice....GLWS
     
  10. AKINSB

    AKINSB Formula Junior

    Feb 15, 2013
    502
    Santa Barbara
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    Alex K
    Great looking car! But of course I am biased. Don't sell yourself short. It is PERFECT! Hope you get your asking price.

    GLWS

    AK
     
  11. James in Denver

    James in Denver Formula 3

    May 23, 2006
    2,136
    Centennial Colorado
    Full Name:
    James in Denver
    Any paperwork on the valves? Have they been addressed?
     
  12. uberlink

    uberlink Formula Junior

    Apr 23, 2012
    777
    Twin Cities, MN
    Full Name:
    Mark Johnson
    Great looking 456. Seems you've sorted most everything. Price seems fair. Good luck!
     
  13. gsbarr

    gsbarr Karting

    Feb 23, 2005
    68
    Thank you for all the kind words. I appreciate that.
    James in Denver: First thing in the morning I'm going to review the past paperwork I have and see if I can find anything on valve service.
     
  14. Mr. V

    Mr. V Formula 3

    Oct 23, 2004
    1,247
    Portland, Oregon
    I'd be somewhat surprised if your car had valve guide issues.

    I have a '95, and from what I've read the problem is more likely to occur in newer models, i.e. the Modificatas.
     
  15. FiveLiterEater96

    FiveLiterEater96 Formula 3

    Nov 5, 2005
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    Andrew
    Wow! Thats a great looking 456. And great choice fitting her with her original wheels, it looks so much better.
     
  16. Perfusion

    Perfusion F1 Rookie

    Oct 16, 2004
    4,151
    Marietta, GA
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    Aaron
    I hope my GT4 can one day look as "imperfect" as your gorgeous 456! ;)

    Stunning car in a gorgeous color...should sell without hesitation.
     
  17. Perfusion

    Perfusion F1 Rookie

    Oct 16, 2004
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    Aaron
    I hope my GT4 can one day look as "imperfect" as your gorgeous 456! ;)

    Stunning car in a gorgeous color...should sell without hesitation.
     
  18. henryr

    henryr Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Nov 10, 2003
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    Atlanta
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    Juan Sánchez Villa-L
    is there a play on the "imperfect" i am missing or ?
     
  19. Dave rocks

    Dave rocks F1 World Champ
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    Nov 23, 2012
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    Orchard Park, NY
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    Dave Lelonek
    The gentleman is describing his car with honesty and full transparency. I applaud him and wish others would follow the same protocol. :)
     
  20. gsbarr

    gsbarr Karting

    Feb 23, 2005
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    James in Denver: I went through paperwork that I have. Unfortunately I don't have any service records prior to 33,000 miles. At 33285 the valves were checked and adjusted. At 43151 valve clearances were checked. At 52636 my mechanic did a valve adjustment. He did not feel there were any issues. The car does not show any signs of valve guide or seating problems and runs great. So it's possible that there never has been a problem and, hopefully never will be, or it had been addressed before 30,000 miles. If you are truly interested in the car I would be glad to bring it into the shop for compression and leak down tests and oil examination.
     
  21. dadams73

    dadams73 Formula Junior

    Feb 19, 2012
    675
    Ocean City NJ
    Full Name:
    Dean
    I thought it was a brilliant name for the ad! It certainly got my attention. Only a true perfectionist would advertise a near perfect car that way. Who better to buy from?
     
  22. otaku

    otaku Formula 3

    Aug 12, 2005
    1,391
    Boise,Idaho
    Full Name:
    Josh
    beautiful car thanks for sharing hope the sale goes well and to a good ferraristi
     
  23. gsbarr

    gsbarr Karting

    Feb 23, 2005
    68
    #23 gsbarr, Jul 17, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    MEA CULPA
    I posted a picture of the wrong tool set for the 456. I keep the tool set for the cars in the house and when I grabbed a tool set to take a picture of the set in the trunk of the 456 I took the 550 set by mistake. Attached is a picture of the 456 tool set. I think I have it correct now. There were probably several of you (Taz comes to mind) that noticed the misstep, but were too polite to say anything. If I still don't have it right please let me know.
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  24. gsbarr

    gsbarr Karting

    Feb 23, 2005
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    Well, I guess the lack of overwhelming response to my ad has informed me that the market for this car is not as strong as I thought it was, or thought it should be. This is an exceptional 456 and I believed it should command more. An excellent driver, while at the same time, an attention grabber. So, I am dropping the price to $84,500. Pictures are in my original ad of July 17, but if you can't find them just contact me and I'll be glad to provide them. Thank you.
     
  25. vvassallo

    vvassallo F1 Veteran

    Aug 4, 2006
    8,328
    Palos Verdes
    Full Name:
    Vince V
    This is very fair price for a 456 red 6-speed in this condition. I think too many people remember the $45K 456's from several years ago. Hey people, things change, that market moved. Plus this is about the best 456 you will find, plus just look at those extra, beautiful wheels. I wish you luck (but you shouldn't need it). GLWS.
     

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