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  1. Dogdish

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    #26 Dogdish, Jun 21, 2009
    Taz,

    I do a bit of flying in 737's for SWA, in and out of ABQ quite a bit. We crab all the way to about 50-100', then transition to wing down, top rudder. We attempt to get all the side loads off the main gear...aligning the fuselage with direction of travel. The mains do castor a bit....about 3 or 4 degrees to help if we didn't get it all lined up at touchdown. As I recall we get a warning on the HUD if we go over 8 degrees roll......keeps the engines from hitting first. :)

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  2. LetsJet

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    #27 LetsJet, Jun 21, 2009
    Why?


    I just don't get it.............


    and on another note:

    Terry, I'd much rather drag a wing on a shorter f111 than a slow to respond Airbus.
     
  3. Dogdish

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    #28 Dogdish, Jun 21, 2009
    Letsjet, Not sure if your question was for me.....if so please elaborate.

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  4. Bob Parks

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    #29 Bob Parks, Jun 22, 2009
    I don't understand your question either. What don't you get about aligning the airplane with the direction of flight? Or whatever else in a x-wind landing?.
     
  5. LetsJet

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    #30 LetsJet, Jun 22, 2009
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    I'll clear it up for you........

    After watching the video and others, I am asking the pilot, "why?" I just don't get why a professional pilot with souls on board would land what appears to be fast and half way down the runway.

    So, it's just a rhetorical "why"

    I pretty much agree with all the posters here, so I don't have anything to add. I can tell you I'm not into circular approaches... Line it up straight for me...
     
  6. tazandjan

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    #31 tazandjan, Jun 22, 2009
    Bill- Thanks. That is what I was wondering. The wing low gives you better track control and more rudder authority and obviously you pick up the wing and add rudder just before touchdown, just like we did. Dragging an engine cowling, or a wing tip on an F-111, was and is not a good deal. No issues with landing gear on the old F-111s. The gear was designed for carrier landings and was very strong.

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  7. Bob Parks

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    #32 Bob Parks, Jun 22, 2009
    Thanks, I agree
     
  8. Dogdish

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    #33 Dogdish, Jun 22, 2009
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    Letsjet,

    I agree.....My "theory" is that maybe their ego was just a bit too big to admit to themselves that the approach was "substandard" and they should have gone around and tried a second time. I would like to think that most airline pilots are mature and smart enough to know their own limitations....and plan accordingly.


    Taz,

    BTW, I was flying at China Lake in the early 90's.....one of the short nosed Navy prototype F-111's is/was there in their little boneyard. Cool airplane....hope the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola picks it up and restores it one day. Here is our HUD on landing, Phoenix I think.



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